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    More shafting in the name of profit

    ....just had this sent my way....

    There is a piece of legislation going through NZ parliament at the
    moment called the Food Bill. There is not much information in the
    media because the media aren't or can't talk about it. It will be
    snuck through faster than a greasy pig while we are on holidays in
    January. We need action now to get 50,000 signatures - already nearly
    13,000 have signed - not enough and we potentially have less than TWO
    WEEKS.

    Some parts of this bill involve change that is good. But some parts
    are completely insane/horrendous and have the potential to compromise
    your health in the future, because they reduce the ability for small
    food producers to produce and give away/sell seeds and food. And it
    would be policed by Food Officers, not needing a warrant, not
    government employees, & apparently having immunity from civil or
    criminal prosecution! This is in the legislation!

    What is different and particularly offensive about this legislation
    is that
    it comes under an international rule called 'Codex' or ''Codex
    Alimentarius'.

    If we go along with Codex NZ then CAN'T CHANGE the legislation in future.

    This is what is really appalling about this. It is not Common Law, it is
    Napoleonic Code. It hasn't happened before with food and is a quiet
    part of Codex that most people don't realise. We would actually have
    to get out of the W.H.O. to change this legislation if we didn't like
    it -
    which is just not a thing governments do. We would be stuck.
    So we need to take time on this legislation, not fast track it through
    at Christmas time.

    What's really shocking about this is that these rules are developed to
    say we need 'food safety'. (Because we all know home grown veggies
    are worse for us than mass produced stuff?!?) But what they really
    intend is to get rid of little producers, small growers and keep the
    growing of food in the hands of the big companies. Codex wasn't
    designed by governments and independent think tanks. It was developed
    by mega corporations - pharmacy, agribusiness, chemical. These laws
    were NOT initially drafted by the NZ government, but by lawyers
    employed by big international corporates.

    We need to stop this legislation as otherwise it will be sneaked
    through while people are on holidays in January (which is what

    governments always do when legislation is controversial).

    Main problems with Food Bill 160-2:
    1. Home & small growers who grow small amounts of food and sell
    locally NEED to be exempt - they are not.
    2. Seeds for cultivation and food seedlings NEED TO NOT BE within
    the definition 'food' under the Bill. (This is huge - imagine you not
    being able to produce seed and give it away to your neighbours).

    Seeds will be 'explicitly controlled substances' (like drugs) -
    seriously. Why?
    3. Under the Food Bill, Police acting as Food Safety Officers can
    raid premises without a warrant, using all equipment they deem
    necessary - including guns (Clause 265 -1) (What is the precedent for
    this?
    Why
    is this necessary?)
    4. Members of the private sector can also be Food Safety
    Officers, as at Clause 243. E.g.. Monsanto employees can raid premises -
    including marae - backed up by armed police. (This has never happened
    before
    or needed to happen).
    5. AND Food Safety Officers have immunity from criminal and civil
    prosecution. What is the precedent for this?



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    http://www.petitiononline.co.nz/petition/oppose-t he-new-zealand-government-food-bill-160-2/1301
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    Sorry mate but the simple fact is the majority of people fucking everything up for the rest of us re Paua/crayfish are Maori so the more raids on Maraes etc the better,armed or not i couldnt give a shit,looking for veges or not i couldnt care less.I will glady give up a few liberties if it means a level playing field for all.
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    Plus e-petitions carry ZERO credibility.
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    ....I didnt see anything about kai-moana mentioned...thats fisheries stuff....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMSec View Post
    ....I didnt see anything about kai-moana mentioned...thats fisheries stuff....
    Thats a typical answer.
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    ...typical answer to what?....I can see this as just another way to stop people who grow and subsidise their incomes by selling vegetables, fruit, preserves etc being shafted by the big concerns...much like local authorities banning the use of macro carpa in cladding situations in some areas...mainly due to lobbying of the authorities by the big Carter Holt Harvey etc concerns, because it was cutting ever so slightly into their profit margins...

    ...if there is anything in it at all....

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    I do wonder how many more police the gubbermint intends to employ, or the surveillance techniques they tend to employ to catch me giving some garden seeds to my neighbours. Maybe garden 'tinnie' houses will pop up? Dairies will love the increased tinfoil sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMSec
    More shafting in the name of profit
    Linkies non worko (had to remove the space in "oppose-t he" and "oppos e-the")

    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    I will glady give up a few liberties if it means a level playing field for all.
    We already have a level playing field... so you're giving up your liberties, and mine, and everyone elses for nothing.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post

    We already have a level playing field... so you're giving up your liberties, and mine, and everyone elses for nothing.

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    Anyone actually read the bill?

    I just had a quick look at it and I can't see seeds coming under the definition of food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boostin View Post
    Anyone actually read the bill?

    I just had a quick look at it and I can't see seeds coming under the definition of food.
    Very few have read it and most of the opponents I've come across are citing inaccurate propaganda. I also strongly recommend reading it for yourselves before jumping to conclusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    trollin, trollin, trollin down the river
    I fail to see why we don't have a level playing field? They've legislated for it thus far and I'm having trouble seeing what this bill is actually trying to achieve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I fail to see why we don't have a level playing field? They've legislated for it thus far and I'm having trouble seeing what this bill is actually trying to achieve.
    The Maoris will cry that it's their right to grow crops, and cheeky whitey shouldn't have the same rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    The Maoris will cry that it's their right to grow crops, and cheeky whitey shouldn't have the same rights.
    Hmmm, I have very big doubts that you would have any clues as to what Maori might say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I'm having trouble seeing what this bill is actually trying to achieve.
    If it's the one I'm thinking of I can only see it screwing over farmers markets, individual/independent stalls/shops etc in favor of large corporates/supermarkets etc
    Seems to be coming from much the same place as that fucking retarded idea couple years back to force sausage sizzles/fundraisers to have health & safety food training certs
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