Is it too much to move from a 250 to 1000 right after getting fulls?

**Nastrond** · 27th January 2012, 08:30

Originally Posted by dangerous

LMFAO... scraping shit shouldnt happen... I wonder if the thread starter knows anything about correct body position, again like susoension something a green hairy arsed newbe will not have had time to perfect befor geting this suposed 1000

Attachment 256112 get what Im saying... power is just one factor and reason why a jump from a 250 to 1000 is too much.

Your right it shouldn't and I don't know the OP so can't comment on his skill set but in my opinion unless you have ridden for a few years I wouldn't advise jumping from a 250cc to a litre bike. Theres a huge diffeence. Not saying it can't be done successfully but going up through the powerband on different bikes will make for a better rider.

Doesn't everyone ride like that then

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**baffa** · 27th January 2012, 08:53

I think it depends on the mindset.
Going from a 250 to anything above a 600 demands a complete change of riding style. Roads I would be thrashing my 250 around I feel like im idling in comparison on a bigger bike. But if you have respect for the bike and dont push your boundries, you can get away with the leap.

**dangerous** · 27th January 2012, 16:28

fuck you people aint listening to ya selves... we all mostely agree its a bad move to do the learners 250 jump to thour or even 600 however its not just one reason alone that makes it a bad choice to do such a move, its not 'just' the power its not 'just' the suspension and its not just tyres or 'mindset' Its the hole bloody shabang its time in the saddle and knolage.

Now weres the farking thread starter, the prick proberly sitting back pissing himself silly with no intent what so ever of buying a thour...

**Sliver** · 28th January 2012, 18:51

have you done it yet?

**tigertim20** · 28th January 2012, 19:49

Originally Posted by dangerous

fuck you people aint listening to ya selves... we all mostely agree its a bad move to do the learners 250 jump to thour or even 600 however its not just one reason alone that makes it a bad choice to do such a move, its not 'just' the power its not 'just' the suspension and its not just tyres or 'mindset' Its the hole bloody shabang its time in the saddle and knolage.

Now weres the farking thread starter, the prick proberly sitting back pissing himself silly with no intent what so ever of buying a thour...

agree with the 'its not just one thing' sentiment. A pity people dont have the common fucking sense to go and try a few bikes of increasing capacity, even just test rides, to get some idea of what they are dealing with. If they'd do that in the first place, they'd answer their own question.

**arkeo** · 28th January 2012, 21:58

Short answer: In my opinion yes, one can move from 250 to 1000.

I ran through the thread and I found quite different opinions, as it should be given the kind of question. My personal history is a bit strange and I'll avoid bothering people with. To summarize, after a whole life owing nothing but my legs, I became the happy owner of a CBR 919. I emphasize that I am not crazy and believe to be at least average wise (whether true or not I let others say it, of course...). It took a month to get out of my garden, a couple of months to get out of the neighborhood of my house and after several weeks I was able to attend the simplest group rides.

If I were to judge from my history I would say that being cautious and always aware it is possible to move not only from 250 to 1000 but even from 0 to 1000. There is more than this simple statement: some drawbacks I was warned against to, happened exactly the way they were pointed out to me. But it was too late to rewind my mental patterns (to name only one: when I made an attempt on a bike with normal handlebars I fell down...). I can say only now, after 3 years, that since I skipped the correct, gradual learning path I became unable to take full advantage of all the possibilities of my present bike; BTW I say always "drive" instead of "ride", for obvious reasons

Also, needless to say, cost are to be taken into account: tires, chain, general maintenance, insurance, taxes (but this of course depends upon the country...), and so on. In the racing tracks I am always the slowest and I know that is partly due to have skipped over a correct learning curve.

If I were able to go back in time and 1) the circumstances allowed 2) if I wanted to try to compete, I would have followed another path. As far as I can tell, there is not a so great difference between 600 and 1000 (I had several chances to drive 600 cc bikes). Instead, I think that I would have taken vantage of some 250-400 cc. Maybe in that range lie bikes halfway between a learning tool and the "big ones".

All this in case the OP were more interested in sport bikes; I guess that otherwise there would be other things to say.

Of course, excuse for my English; hope to be at least a bit understandable.

A.

**ellipsis** · 28th January 2012, 22:50

...simple solution...get a sportster...

**GrayWolf** · 29th January 2012, 12:42

Originally Posted by CAMSec

...simple solution...get a sportster...

or an MT-01

**Jantar** · 29th January 2012, 12:50

All discussion over the past 10 days has been moot. The OP hasn't visited KB since 15th January 2012.

**ellipsis** · 29th January 2012, 12:52

....he may have opted for a van and gone fishin...

**James Deuce** · 29th January 2012, 12:59

As if the fishing here wasn't any good!

**tigertim20** · 29th January 2012, 14:44

Originally Posted by Jantar

All discussion over the past 10 days has been moot. The OP hasn't visited KB since 15th January 2012.

ok, so he bought a thou, and killed himself???

**FJRider** · 29th January 2012, 14:55

Originally Posted by tigertim20

ok, so he bought a thou, and killed himself???

A Suzuki thou would cause that ... shame does strange things to a mans mind ...

**Nastrond** · 29th January 2012, 18:37

Originally Posted by FJRider

A Suzuki thou would cause that ... shame does strange things to a mans mind ...

Your not joking either but its also physical.

Reflexes are lightning quick. Eyesight super sharp with the balance of a tightrope walker and the bravery of a soldier. Not only that but women run up to me at traffic lights withs lacy garments in their hand asking for my number and men ask me what its like to be a riding god mastering such a powerful machine and I just reply with a wink and say "life's good man"

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**FJRider** · 29th January 2012, 18:43

Originally Posted by Nastrond

Your not joking either but its also physical.

Reflexes are lightning quick. Eyesight super sharp with the balance of a tightrope walker and the bravery of a soldier. Not only that but women run up to me at traffic lights withs lacy garments in their hand asking for my number and men ask me what its like to be a riding god mastering such a powerful machine and I just reply with a wink and say "life's good man"

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The risk of injury WOULD be great too ... especially when you wake up after you fall out of bed ...