Another fallen comrade

**5150** · 17th January 2012, 15:36

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6270...sh-near-Thames

RIP to another member of our motorcycling community

**haydes55** · 17th January 2012, 15:53

Doesn't sound very pleasant, bursting into flames

RIP

**willytheekid** · 17th January 2012, 16:44

I was just reading about that crash...sobering!

Thoughts go out to the riders family and friends...RIP

Ride safe KBers

**5150** · 18th January 2012, 09:21

Re yesterdays fatal crash. and it comes with an obvious warning from the Police

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times...torcycle-fatal

**danchop** · 18th January 2012, 10:06

What we believe is that it is pretty hard to mentor someone from a rear vision mirror and perhaps it would be better for the more experienced rider to follow the novice and monitor their riding

how do you mentor from behind?doesnt the experienced rider in front make it easier for the novice to follow better lines?just dont go too far ahead making the novice panick into catching up.
anyway feel shit for the partner coming back to that scene

**oneofsix** · 18th January 2012, 10:20

Originally Posted by danchop

What we believe is that it is pretty hard to mentor someone from a rear vision mirror and perhaps it would be better for the more experienced rider to follow the novice and monitor their riding

how do you mentor from behind?doesnt the experienced rider in front make it easier for the novice to follow better lines?just dont go too far ahead making the novice panick into catching up.
anyway feel shit for the partner coming back to that scene

My learner rider always preferred the more experienced rider to be in front. You just had to remember you were leading a learner, allow time, forego manoeuvres you might have otherwise tried, check your mirrors more often paying additional attention to looking for them. And yes it is bloody scary when you get it wrong at the end of a passing land and you end up with traffic between you.

**5150** · 18th January 2012, 10:21

Originally Posted by danchop

What we believe is that it is pretty hard to mentor someone from a rear vision mirror and perhaps it would be better for the more experienced rider to follow the novice and monitor their riding

how do you mentor from behind?doesnt the experienced rider in front make it easier for the novice to follow better lines?just dont go too far ahead making the novice panick into catching up.
anyway feel shit for the partner coming back to that scene

My only gripe with the mentor in this case was that he perhaps rode to quick for the novice to keep up. Mind you we weren't there so we won't know for sure what exactly happened. But in principle I would agree that it is better for the learner to follow a more experienced rider and watch their actions and lines through corners. BUT at a pace they can handle.....

**actungbaby** · 18th January 2012, 10:52

Originally Posted by 5150

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6270...sh-near-Thames

RIP to another member of our motorcycling community

No good at all sounds very nasty for all concerned including accident workers

Was reading tueday domiion had piece on chap that was larger than life survied cancer in 30s and was killed

this week aged around 50s , riding in area he knew well too on his gs 1000 wife said

he rode that area 3-4 times week was his lets have fun riding spot i took from this maybe good idea

Not to have you fav ride in built up area cause sounds like car pulled accross the street into drivway

It didnt say who was at fault (not thats going change anything)

damm thats alot people in week isint it sometimes nothing you can do

If its your time its your time

**steve_t** · 18th January 2012, 10:59

When my missus started riding, I'd ride behind her to shield her from tailgating wankers. Now when we go for a ride, I'll let her lead to start with, then she'll let me know when she's keen to follow behind me. Naturally, I try to keep good lines and appropriate speeds but I still constantly worry about her. The propaganda must be getting to me...

**oneofsix** · 18th January 2012, 11:06

Originally Posted by actungbaby

No good at all sounds very nasty for all concerned including accident workers

Was reading tueday domiion had piece on chap that was larger than life survied cancer in 30s and was killed

this week aged around 50s , riding in area he knew well too on his gs 1000 wife said

he rode that area 3-4 times week was his lets have fun riding spot i took from this maybe good idea

Not to have you fav ride in built up area cause sounds like car pulled accross the street into drivway

It didnt say who was at fault (not thats going change anything)

damm thats alot people in week isint it sometimes nothing you can do

If its your time its your time

There is a separate thread for this guy but FYI it is not a "built up area". it is a rural road but some farms have been subdivided for life stylers. It is one of the few pieces of "rural" road in the area.

RIP to the lady in this thread

**actungbaby** · 18th January 2012, 11:16

Originally Posted by steve_t

When my missus started riding, I'd ride behind her to shield her from tailgating wankers. Now when we go for a ride, I'll let her lead to start with, then she'll let me know when she's keen to follow behind me. Naturally, I try to keep good lines and appropriate speeds but I still constantly worry about her. The propaganda must be getting to me...

Its great your looking after to her good attitude mate but its more whats in front thats a issue
But dont stress its not good for either of you its not that bad out there. after look vietniam damm makes are
roads look like sunday drive , live life and take enjoyment from it dont live in fear

**actungbaby** · 18th January 2012, 11:17

Originally Posted by oneofsix

There is a separate thread for this guy but FYI it is not a "built up area". it is a rural road but some farms have been subdivided for life stylers. It is one of the few pieces of "rural" road in the area.

RIP to the lady in this thread

Oh good to hear i didnt think he ride like that thanks