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    Anyone got a Loncin CBD150 engine i can have a look at (Wiring)

    Hi Guys
    Im a bit retarded when it comes to wiring . could anyone help me?

    I've got a Honda GL145 and purchased a Loncin150 motor for it about 6 months ago. I've finally got around to having some time to try and get it going but im buggerd if i can work out
    why i cant get any spark.

    im not exactly electricly minded but thought i had sone what was required
    i've got one of these motors.

    http://newmanz.co.nz/shop/index.php?...&products_id=5


    From what im told all you need to make this thing run is

    Blue/white from engine to blue CDI
    Black/Red from engine to Red CDI
    Yellow/Black from CDI to the Coil
    Coil green wire goes to Ground
    Green wire from CDI goes to ground
    black /white is kill switch (not connected)

    i've got one of these CDI's that came free with the bike
    http://newmanz.co.nz/shop/index.php?...roducts_id=208

    has anyone got an example of one that is already wired up? pleaseee

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOTOXXX View Post
    Hi Guys
    Im a bit retarded when it comes to wiring . could anyone help me?

    I've got a Honda GL145 and purchased a Loncin150 motor for it about 6 months ago. I've finally got around to having some time to try and get it going but im buggerd if i can work out
    why i cant get any spark.

    im not exactly electricly minded but thought i had sone what was required
    i've got one of these motors.

    http://newmanz.co.nz/shop/index.php?...&products_id=5


    From what im told all you need to make this thing run is

    Blue/white from engine to blue CDI
    Black/Red from engine to Red CDI
    Yellow/Black from CDI to the Coil
    Coil green wire goes to Ground
    Green wire from CDI goes to ground
    black /white is kill switch (not connected)

    i've got one of these CDI's that came free with the bike
    http://newmanz.co.nz/shop/index.php?...roducts_id=208

    has anyone got an example of one that is already wired up? pleaseee
    most common cause is earthing to many wires (ie one that acts as a kill button)

    i have a pic of my own wiring interpretation... just getting it loaded

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    http://flic.kr/p/b79Hxi

    take a look at this hi tech diagram, been a while but this is what i ended up with.

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    You're not going bucket racing are you Eamon ?

    You'll hurt yourself eh !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NSR143 View Post
    http://flic.kr/p/b79Hxi

    take a look at this hi tech diagram, been a while but this is what i ended up with.

    hey mate, thanks for confirming this. thats what i have connected up too. except i dont have a blue/yellow mine is blue/white

    Does it run without the killswitch wire connected to the cdi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    You're not going bucket racing are you Eamon ?

    You'll hurt yourself eh !!
    haha, i might do!

    depends if i can get this thing running or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOTOXXX View Post
    hey mate, thanks for confirming this. thats what i have connected up too. except i dont have a blue/yellow mine is blue/white

    Does it run without the killswitch wire connected to the cdi?
    yes it would do, just you cannot switch it off, which is OK as long as the throttle isn't stuck on full!!

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    Check the coil wiring as Loncin have a way of making the black/red wire earth and the green wire power. ( the wiring on the coil itself)
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    Which CDI did you get? you probably got an engine from the same shipment as i did, the engine is supposed to come with wiring loom as advertised but i had alot of problems getting all my parts that it was advertised as coming with out of Newmans. eventually he sent me a loom but it didnt even match anything, it was ladelled for a 250... but i did get mine going after copying another one, i have the aftermarket blue alloy cased CDI if thats what you have i'll see if i can take some pics coz all the diagrams i as given didnt work

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    Quote Originally Posted by speights_bud View Post
    Which CDI did you get? you probably got an engine from the same shipment as i did, the engine is supposed to come with wiring loom as advertised but i had alot of problems getting all my parts that it was advertised as coming with out of Newmans. eventually he sent me a loom but it didnt even match anything, it was ladelled for a 250... but i did get mine going after copying another one, i have the aftermarket blue alloy cased CDI if thats what you have i'll see if i can take some pics coz all the diagrams i as given didnt work
    yea mate the CDI is the aftermarket blue alloy case one. The wiring loom doesnt plug and play into anything, i had to cut wires and connect them my self with crimpers etc.

    that would be great if you could take some photos mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fi5hy View Post
    Check the coil wiring as Loncin have a way of making the black/red wire earth and the green wire power. ( the wiring on the coil itself)
    thanks Fishy, do you mean the yellow/black and the green wire from the coil?

    ill give it a go

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOTOXXX View Post
    yea mate the CDI is the aftermarket blue alloy case one. The wiring loom doesnt plug and play into anything, i had to cut wires and connect them my self with crimpers etc.

    that would be great if you could take some photos mate!
    I'll see what i can do when i get home

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    Hi Motoxxx i run a loncin 150 on my bucket sidecar with one of those blue cased cdi units . With mine three wires from the engine loom are used
    blue white to cdi blue
    black red to cdi red
    green white to ground


    coil to cdi yellow
    kill switch to cdi black
    ground to cdi green


    when i got the sidecar i fitted a common six pin multi plug to both ends of the wiring so there's no chance of ever plugging a lead in wrong. The only thing you may not have picked up on which was posted earlier is to earth the green white wire from the engine or maybe a faulty cdi unit. I love chinese wiring systems especially on buses where you have to read circuit diagrams with a magnifying glass and a crystal ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildman View Post
    Hi Motoxxx i run a loncin 150 on my bucket sidecar with one of those blue cased cdi units . With mine three wires from the engine loom are used
    blue white to cdi blue
    black red to cdi red
    green white to ground


    coil to cdi yellow
    kill switch to cdi black
    ground to cdi green


    when i got the sidecar i fitted a common six pin multi plug to both ends of the wiring so there's no chance of ever plugging a lead in wrong. The only thing you may not have picked up on which was posted earlier is to earth the green white wire from the engine or maybe a faulty cdi unit. I love chinese wiring systems especially on buses where you have to read circuit diagrams with a magnifying glass and a crystal ball.

    Hey Wildman, thanks for your help.

    Yes you have the exact same setup as me, colour codes all match. I have ran tests on the coil and that seems to be fine.
    i've also tested to ensure i have a good constant ground to the CDI and to the green/white wire from the engine.

    When i kick it over i can see pulse coming from the blue/white wire with a multimeter so that seems to be fine, i think i may have a faulty cdi.

    im sending an email to newmanz to see if i can get a swap cdi to confirm. ill keep you posted

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