Price of entries for nationals

[Maido]

Seriously not trying to create a shit storm here, but I was just entering the Hampton Downs round of the nationals and noticed that the entry fee here was quite a large sum ($110) larger than the other rounds. I would assume this is due to HD being pricey to hire, would this be the correct assumption?
Don't get me wrong, I think we have relatively cheap racing here, but just wanted to know why this round was particularly higher than the others.
Also, what does the unnofficial practice cost?

FYI
one class entries for nats
Ruapuna $180
Levels $160
Teretonga $180
H Downs $290
Taupo $130

Cheers
Jeremy

[jellywrestler]

Will be dearer for you overall per lap to; what with only getting half races in...


Ask someone that does economics and get them to explain that Teretonga is 40 something years old and paid for long time ago whereas HD is still being built and that may explain track hireage fee difference too

[Billy]

Yes,It is very expensive,However there are most likely to be good reasons for that.

AMCC are the organising commitee for this round and only they will know the correct answer,Anything else will be hearsay.

But hey,This is Kiwibiker,Can't wait to see where this goes LOL!

[MSTRS:Me]

Ask someone that does economics and get them to explain that Teretonga is 40 something years old and paid for long time ago whereas HD is still being built and that may explain track hireage fee difference too

Essentially correct. TD's at HD are way more expensive than anywhere else too.

Although, why is Taupo so cheap then? It's still a fairly new track and is prolly still being paid for.

[quallman1234]

Hampton downs also includes a half day test day on the friday does it not?

[CHOPPA]

Hampton downs also includes a half day test day on the friday does it not?

I would doubt that...

[ellipsis]

...another perspective to view from could be...we are blessed to be able to get away with it all being so cheap down here in good old fucked up NZ...price disparities come at you from all angles...why is a big glass of beer five bucks in one bar and a smaller one nine bucks in another...mysteries of life...

[quallman1234]

I would doubt that...

Why does it say "Friday 16th to Sunday 18th"? Confusing...???

[Maido]

Will be dearer for you overall per lap to; what with only getting half races in...

Touche, well played!

Ask someone that does economics and get them to explain that Teretonga is 40 something years old and paid for long time ago whereas HD is still being built and that may explain track hireage fee difference too

That makes perfect sense, funny, for some reason I completely forgot how new the place is!
As I said earlier, I have no problem with what we pay here, we are very lucky from some stories I have heard.
Looking forward to heading up there come March.

[neil_cb125t]

Interesting as Taupo is the cheapest.....

Wait to you look at hiring a garage at HD - last year they wanted $450 per garage per day.....

[Bykmad]

Interesting as Taupo is the cheapest.....

Wait to you look at hiring a garage at HD - last year they wanted $450 per garage per day.....

Yup, and when you think that you can easily get 6 bikes in a garage, suddenly not so bad.

The South island Tracks are awfully cheap to hire by comparison with HD, Pukekohe and Manfeild. Would appear that a good price was offered to get the Final round of the champs at Taupo too. Don't know what the price of a Paramedic unit is down south, but up in the North here it is around $800 per day. And you need two of them.
The Auckland Club took a bath on last years Championship round (In the vicinity of 20 K) and that was with charging the extortionate entry fees.
The more competitors that enter, the lower the cost can go, but when you get up to twice the entries at a club day than you get at Nationals, you have to ask the question. Why????

[wayne]

$675 a round in aussy ,
garage ontop of that,

[sharky]

Interesting as Taupo is the cheapest.....

Wait to you look at hiring a garage at HD - last year they wanted $450 per garage per day.....

Yeah and if it rains, you don't stay any drier than if you were sitting outside

[lostinflyz]

The Auckland Club took a bath on last years Championship round (In the vicinity of 20 K) and that was with charging the extortionate entry fees.
The more competitors that enter, the lower the cost can go, but when you get up to twice the entries at a club day than you get at Nationals, you have to ask the question. Why????

Thats a catch 22, if you ramp the price up you would expect fewer entries, not more....

not moaning, just stating.

on a moaning note - 450 bucks a day for a leaky garage you have to share with 6 stinky others does not fall into my not so bad category.......

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

I'll try and give some insight into the cost of running a national event at HD.

$60,086.75c is what the final cost of the two and a half days of hire for last years nationals, covering the cost of a broom hire to the cost of circuit hire and everything in between.

Bykmad is correct, we lost nearly 20k last year on the event. oh and a paramedic is $1,300 a day and we use two fully crewed ambulances, you can do the maths.

The event continuing to be held at Hampton Downs will depend on so much more than race entries, we are taking a different approach this year (details will follow in the not too distant future). The way of commerce now means to run an event at a venue such as HD the costs can no longer be met by race entry fees as events over the years have.
The entry price for this event clearly does not cover the cost of the event but........as I have stated a different approach will be taken this year in attracting the whole family to attend and most importantly getting value for their ticket price. boosting spectator entries and increasing revenue is the only way the event can become viable.

You guys down south are very lucky to have circuits available at the costs you do, up here we no longer do, just ask the Orion club what Manfield left them with last season. In my view it was the best event of the season with a good crowd, awesome weather and entry list but they left in the red on the day. Simply put it aint cheap up here guys but we will try our best at making it work now and in the future and hopefully the cost of entry (and gate price) can come down with confidence that the general public will attend in numbers and effectively subsidise the costs for everyone.

KG