Which 50cc scooter is the best?

[DangerMice]

And happily, mods aren't expensive either....

[mc5]

so noone knows much about the Piaggio Zip (2T)?

[ktm84mxc]

Yamaha Jog by far the best and most reliable 50cc Scooter, wins all the comparos with other makes.
You can even get a 70cc big bore kit with expansion chamber and carb mods for the Jog to make them go. Only down fall is there cost wen new.

[mc5]

the Jog is no longer avail here new - Yamaha stopped supplying them...

[DangerMice]

so noone knows much about the Piaggio Zip (2T)?

As I said, ridden them both, my friend has a 2T one, slow slow slow compared to Jog. As least it was until he dropped a 70cc kit into it....

[ktm84mxc]

Just had a look on www.yamaha-motor.co.nz CV50 Jog is still available and is their only 50cc Scooter, it appears the 4 stroke retro model is gone.
The Jog has been Yamahas top selling road model in NZ for many a year.

[mc5]

yes, it features on the website, but in fact is not available (i rang them).

[ktm84mxc]

I'd get on to their dealer list and email them as there may be some on the shop floor plan[consignment] , this would explain why Yamaha has lost market share not supplying models the public want.

[Zipper2T]

so noone knows much about the Piaggio Zip (2T)?

I've got a Zip 2T. Similar performance to all the other two stroke 50cc scooters and much better than the four stroke version. Top speed about 65 km/h once derestricted (washer in the variator taken out) . It has now done almost 13000 km with no problems. Stylish design, excellent handling and a medium full face helmet will fit under the seat.
Drawbacks include no luggage rack as standard equipment for a top box and it's a pain to fit one, only average fuel consumption for 50cc scooter and no fuel gauge, just a light. Made in China by Zongshen Piaggio.

Uses the same engine/transmission as the Vespa LX50 which costs more than double. Is that scooter overpriced or what ?

[jamface10]

This is the exact trouble I'm having, whether I want to muck around finding a good Jog online, or just getting the Zip 2T from a dealer? Does anyone know if there are dealers still selling the Jog, new or second-hand?

Acceleration wise is the Jog a lot better?

Thanks

[hardhats]

I had a 2-stroke 1999 PGO Comet a few years back. Great scooter, very reliable, did about 80kph on the flat and coped with my 80kg up hills at 50-60kph no problem. Only modification was cutting off the small extra blind-ending pipe on the exhaust and getting the hole welded closed (local exhaust shop did it for $20).

After I was hit by a car for the 2nd time I decided that a small scooter with tiny wheels on wet roads (with Auckland drivers) is not a safe combination...
Bought a large silver bike with very bright headlights and a loud exhaust. No problems since (touch wood). A few hundred dollars of savings in petrol money is not worth any injury from a potentially avoidable accident.

[DangerMice]

Yeah cause no-one ever got knocked off anything larger than 50cc right?

[mc5]

yes, second-hand Jog or new P Zip? Woottons in New Lynn Ak also have Taiwanese scooters - Sym and Keeway. again, hard to know how these all stack up...

[mc5]

oh, and yesterday's email from Yamaha:

At this stage there are no plans, to re-introduce the Jog CV50.
This may change in the future or an alternative model may be released.

Regards,
Duilio Pianca
Customer Relations Department
Yamaha Motor Australia

btw re jamface10, overseas reviews of P Zip 2T are v good, but no fuel guage is a bummer as is limited under-seat space for helmet.

[DangerMice]

but no fuel guage is a bummer

You'd quickly get to know how far you can go though.


Have you taken any for a spin? After you ride both it'll probably be pretty obvious which one you prefer.