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    A friend of mine had a similar problem.
    Apparently after a day in the Disputes Court you need to have advertised the fact it has been left and to be removed or sold etc in the public notices.....bit old fashioned but that the way it appears to work.
    ....and it appears unlikely you can charge storage unless agreed earlier in writing.
    I would not to anything rash as it may come back and bite you.
    Best ask a legal type.

    Still the idea of sticking it on TM and sending the link to him has some appeal....

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Text him;

    You: "I see you picked up the boat"

    Him: "Nah, wotchoo talkin' 'bout?"

    You: "It's gone, I thought you musta picked it up"

    And let us know the result...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Text him;

    You: "I see you picked up the boat"

    Him: "Nah, wotchoo talkin' 'bout?"

    You: "It's gone, I thought you musta picked it up"

    And let us know the result...
    Best idea yet

    I wouldnt sell it as a whole thngs as you may be passing a hassle on to the buyer
    but if he doesnt do anything about the text then do what you like
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    I would not to anything rash as it may come back and bite you.
    Best ask a legal type.
    +1. As much as you'd love to sell i'm pretty sure there's a law about how you go about this.

    Maybe call the CAB....?

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    Your best bet is to call a towing firm and get it removed as an illegally parked vehicle.

    You've asked the owner to remove it and he hasn't, so you are well within your rights to have it towed from your property as you have revoked your permission to have it parked there.
    It's really a very simple process.
    Also, the cost to you will be nothing, as the tow firm will attempt to recoup costs from the owner - the owner pays on collection. And should he not bother to pick it up, the tow company are able to make application to dispose of it completely legally, in order to cover their costs.

    Means you can wash your hands of it, for a quick phone call to see which of your local tow companies has a truck with a towbar - or a flatdeck.
    No disputes tribunal necessary and there is no ability for the owner to come back to you as it's your private property and you don't even have to tell him you have revoked permission
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    whats it made out of?
    it its mostly all metal scrap it and make some cash from it.

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    Push it onto road, put a sign saying "Free to a good home", take a photo and send him the photo.

    See if he is faster than the local collectors.
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    Lots of inventive thinking here lads, I like it. :

    Frankly you need lateral ideas because the strict law is cumbersome to follow.

    Very briefly Dogsnbikes, you are a voluntary not-for-reward bailee at will of the boat and trailer. You accepted possession without any requirement for payment. You are responsible for the property to the true owner. Legally you do not own it, you can't destroy it, sell it, or throw it away.

    The fact the true owner has broken the agreement and wilfully refuses to remove the boat and trailer does change the legal position in the sense that he would have a hard time getting compensation from you. Its arguable the property is abandoned.

    I kinda like simply putting it on the roadside and letting the council take care of it. You can tell the guy first if you feel you ought to.

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    Scummy's idea would be my favourite....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogsnbikes View Post
    Back in April of 2010 I allowed a so called friend to park his rotten old boat in our drive as it was only going to be there for a week 10days at the most.....

    I have contacted him several times since both by phone and in person Last time was in October 2011 and told him the boat needs too be gone by Dec 2011 and yet the boat or pile of shit still sits in my driveway,I don't want to tow it anywhere as the Trailer is also stuffed and doult it would make it down the road very far

    At this point,I see my only options are to get a towie in to take it too the tip or cut the bastard up (the boat I mean) Either way is going to cost me either in time or money

    What are your thoughts
    as I understand, since you agreed to look after it by allowing it on your property, you are responsible for what happens to it while in your care.
    My suggestion. send him an email or a text (something with a trail you can prove later that you sent him a message if the shit hits the fan) saying that if he doesnt not remove it with 5 days, it will be put on the road and it will be up to him to take responsibility for it.

    if he doesnt pick it up, park it on the road.

    youve given notice and its his problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogsnbikes View Post
    rotten old boat...pile of shit... I don't want to tow it anywhere as the Trailer is also stuffed and doult it would make it down the road very far

    Quote Originally Posted by dogsnbikes View Post
    ...As parts fall off it I been cutting them up for fire wood.......I guess I can scrap the trailor and motor and sell the cleets and whinch of the trailer
    I'm picking your so called friend probably doesn't have any long term plans for it. I'd either push it onto the road (in front of the neigbours house of course) and forget about it or have a word with a towie.

    The degree of advice you give your friend about it is probably proportionate to the likelihood of you remaining friends with him. Given you ask "us" for advice instead of talking with him about it would tend to suggest you shouldn't bother telling him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Lots of inventive thinking here lads, I like it. :

    Frankly you need lateral ideas because the strict law is cumbersome to follow.

    Very briefly Dogsnbikes, you are a voluntary not-for-reward bailee at will of the boat and trailer. You accepted possession without any requirement for payment. You are responsible for the property to the true owner. Legally you do not own it, you can't destroy it, sell it, or throw it away.

    The fact the true owner has broken the agreement and wilfully refuses to remove the boat and trailer does change the legal position in the sense that he would have a hard time getting compensation from you. Its arguable the property is abandoned.

    I kinda like simply putting it on the roadside and letting the council take care of it. You can tell the guy first if you feel you ought to.
    I thought possession was 9/10th of the law.
    Or is that just for drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    Tow it out onto the road, it will be removed shortly afterwards.
    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    out on the road & call the council

    [beat me to it]
    +1. I'd just move it onto the street. Tell him you moved it there, and he'll need to make arrangements before the council does. It's his responsibility then.

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    Neighbours had this sort of problem following a mortgagee sale of a section with two big containers on it!

    They bought the section but not the containers ... the legal tangles were a nightmare for them.

    They finally were able to sell them and send the owner the money ..... "he sent it back"! .... Banked and sorted!

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    Interesting comments......I couldn't tow it out onto the road as its an eyesore and full of rusty old fish hooks etc and I have really good neighbours,because We dont have any road frontage it feels morally wrong..

    I have found the plate on a lighting board that was in the boat and the plates are dead rego ran out 14/02/2001

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