Price of entries for nationals

[RobGassit]

Phuck me here we go again!

[p.dath]

So my Question now is "Why do we have 5 rounds of National Championship events for about 50 riders?" No meeting could possibly break even, let alone make a small profit for the organising clubs. Why not two "Major" meetings, One South Island (GP), One North Island (TT), and make it a "Festival" of Top Level Road Racing, making it attractive for EVERYONE to race at, do major publicity, get TV, and put on a big professional show. You never know, you may even attract some spectators. Just a thought.

Considering that motorbike racing is not a professional sport in NZ (as in, 99% of those involved could not make a living from doing only that activity), it would seem most people do it for the enjoyment.

That being the case, what seems like more fun, 2 races a year or 5 races a year? Maybe I'm missing something.

[CHOPPA]

No one races at the nats cause are soft. Make entry free and you will still only get the same guys racing

[Bykmad]

No one races at the nats cause are soft. Make entry free and you will still only get the same guys racing

Which backs up my arguement. There is still the Tri Series, Street circuits, Club Series etc.

[oscarnz]

Essentially correct. TD's at HD are way more expensive than anywhere else too.

Although, why is Taupo so cheap then? It's still a fairly new track and is prolly still being paid for.

Taupo is so reasonable cause PMCC got a very good deal on hireage of track.
Much cheaper than what Manfield wanted to charge.

[Kickaha]

No one races at the nats cause are soft. Make entry free and you will still only get the same guys racing

Pretty much nailed it

[Yow Ling]

At least the North Island tracks have flushing toilets. At Teretonga they have the Taj Mahal Tower for half a dozen knobs to sit in while the paddock who paid to be there use plastic short drops. Third world shit. Pun intended.

Same as parts of Christchurch, cant be that bad then

[Foxzee]

The ongoing ....worst than Coro this saga will continue....the Clubs that puts hand up to hold these event's need to be applauded!

[wharfy]

BOLLOCKS!!!!

Classic example,Dean Bentley,3 weeks ago club racer,Now Nationals racer running 2nd in his class,Sam Croft,Chris Osborne,Andrew Croft,Hugh Trenholme,Haydn Hutchinson..........

The ONLY difference is having the will to win and the dedication to do the hard yards to get there without focussing on the fact they could well have ended up last,End of the day,Somebodys gotta

Well having bollocks alone does not make you a National level racer
I don't know all of those people but the ones I do know (the first four) I would consider National level racers i.e. they would probably make the 115% cut off in their class and are not just there for a giggle.

How many NZ superbike riders can stay on the same lap as Stroud for more than 7 laps ? There is a difference between coming last (which I do often) and being a mobile chicane (which I have been on occasion). You don't want to be doing the latter at the Nationals and potentially stuff up someones shot at the title (in any class).

[lostinflyz]

How many NZ superbike riders can stay on the same lap as Stroud for more than 7 laps ? There is a difference between coming last (which I do often) and being a mobile chicane (which I have been on occasion). You don't want to be doing the latter at the Nationals and potentially stuff up someones shot at the title (in any class).

if you can qaulify or get close you should do it. Stuffing up someones race is actually quite hard........he is going 15% quicker than you, and wants to win. When you get lapped at nats theres no fucking about, there usually so much quicker there isn't enough time for you to stuff up someones race.

and yep mistakes happen but they happen up the pointy end alot more than the arse end.....

oh and finally on the toliets, i would rather be forced to shit in my leathers all weekend and race at invercargill, a glorious track to race on, than have a golden throne at manfield....

[jellywrestler]

Well having bollocks alone does not make you a National level racer
I don't know all of those people but the ones I do know (the first four) I would consider National level racers i.e. they would probably make the 115% cut off in their class and are not just there for a giggle.

How many NZ superbike riders can stay on the same lap as Stroud for more than 7 laps ? There is a difference between coming last (which I do often) and being a mobile chicane (which I have been on occasion). You don't want to be doing the latter at the Nationals and potentially stuff up someones shot at the title (in any class).

true, see Slowpokes take on it all in ride report section, he's got to go and race and see how the big boys do it between his races and been part of the whole scene.

[wharfy]

true, see Slowpokes take on it all in ride report section, he's got to go and race and see how the big boys do it between his races and been part of the whole scene.

Oh yeah I read his report - excellent - I'd be into doing clubman's (or BEARS) at some National rounds (when I'm gainfully employed )

[CHOPPA]

Lapped traffic is always challenging but it is part of racing. I would encourage everyone that is close to the 115% to race

[brads]

Well having bollocks alone does not make you a National level racer
I don't know all of those people but the ones I do know (the first four) I would consider National level racers i.e. they would probably make the 115% cut off in their class and are not just there for a giggle.

How many NZ superbike riders can stay on the same lap as Stroud for more than 7 laps ? There is a difference between coming last (which I do often) and being a mobile chicane (which I have been on occasion). You don't want to be doing the latter at the Nationals and potentially stuff up someones shot at the title (in any class).

Sorry mate but thats just being soft,a lot of people on here wank on about how fast they are but do not race the nationals cause people will see they are not as fast as they say,when i first went to a nationals round in 95? Joey Dunlop was out here racing on his trick RS250,i had a bog stock 88 RS,all the guys that i had raced with during the winter didnt show up and i remember thinking shit im going to get a hiding but what happened was racing with faster guys improves your riding and my lap times were way faster than i had ever done...still got a hiding but who gives a shit when your riding faster than you ever have,Choppa's right,free entry still wont get the club day champs along,wish i had an answer for it..........

[wharfy]

Sorry mate but thats just being soft,a lot of people on here wank on about how fast they are but do not race the nationals cause people will see they are not as fast as they say,when i first went to a nationals round in 95? Joey Dunlop was out here racing on his trick RS250,i had a bog stock 88 RS,all the guys that i had raced with during the winter didnt show up and i remember thinking shit im going to get a hiding but what happened was racing with faster guys improves your riding and my lap times were way faster than i had ever done...still got a hiding but who gives a shit when your riding faster than you ever have,Choppa's right,free entry still wont get the club day champs along,wish i had an answer for it..........

NZ is a small country there is probably only a couple of hundred people that race on any sort of regular basis. Take the top 20% and you only have 40 riders. We just have to accept that we are only going to get a dozen or so riders in any class that will be in the points.

Choppa is a club champ, (Vic Club Winter Series 2010) I have raced with him on numerous occasions, that's how I know that I am not a national level rider. There are lots of racers that do the street meetings and know that they are going to have there arse whipped in front of MUCH bigger crowds than ever show up at the Nationals (I'm one) It is not about being embarrassed it is about whether or not you consider yourself a National level rider (well for me anyway) I'm not soft - just slow, and I'd rather the Nationals had small fields of competitive riders than fill the grids with duffers like myself. I believe that the Nationals should be about quality - not quantity and at the pointy end the racing is fucking great ! You can race year round in NZ if you want to - and have all the fun you can afford.