Crafar Farms?

[vifferman]

So Iwi wanted to buy it with what,beads? i doubt it no they would want to buy it with money leeched off New Zealanders which is even more sickening,good job its gone to who it has as theres a fair chance they will put it to good use and some New Zealanders will gain from it.The other option would have seen a fuck up like everything else thats given to Iwi."illegally confiscated"fuck thats getting boring.

With all respect, Dude - you need to read up on your New Zealand history. It may be 'boring' but there's no doubt that the real fuck up was the way the original "New Zealanders" were treated. Yes, it would be nice if we could all just be New Zealanders and forget about history, but there's a huge injustice that was done in the past that can't just be buried. I felt much the same as you, but listening to a Canadian Noo Zilunder who knew more about this country's history than a fifth-generation Kiwi motivated me to go and read more about it. I'm both glad and sorry I did.

It seems hugely short-sighted for the gummint to decide in favour of a short-term gain, but I won't be at all surprised to see a lot more of ill-considered asset sales and loss of sovereignty for a quick buck. "I told you so" won't fix it...

[98tls]

With all respect, Dude - you need to read up on your New Zealand history. It may be 'boring' but there's no doubt that the real fuck up was the way the original "New Zealanders" were treated. Yes, it would be nice if we could all just be New Zealanders and forget about history, but there's a huge injustice that was done in the past that can't just be buried.

It seems hugely short-sighted for the gummint to decide in favour of a short-term gain, but I won't be at all surprised to see a lot more of ill-considered asset sales and loss of sovereignty for a quick buck. "I told you so" won't fix it...

With all respect thats your opinion and your entitled (oops) to it,its not one i agree with though.

[James Deuce]

"A land grab"/"removing any capability for the local yokels to share"that rings a belllet me think.

Yes it does. Doesn't make it right, nor should "we" ignore that particular lesson. It should inform our current decision making process. Economic colonisation is far more insidious than armies marching up to your door.

[mashman]

your gonna have to be a bit more specific than that mate............wheres NZ chinatown then?

coming to a field near you soon apparently ... similar to little Italy's and little India's, I really don't have a problem with them other than they segregate the wider community and promote/provoke racism. Just wondering is the buyer buying it on behalf of the Chinese govt? If so, could they setup marijuana fields and claim diplomatic immunity?

[James Deuce]

For all the "experts" I have this question - how would you feel if I was offering you the best deal on your prized possession and someone told you that you couldn't sell it o me but you can sell it to John down the road who's offer was less than mine. Don't come back at me with "but this is our land" becauses it's not. It's owned by someone, in this case the banks and creditors who have effectively bought it for a loss and are entitled to sell it or the best price.

"Feel" has nothing to do with it. More often it is achieved by fait accompli with little regard to the law, particularly when foreign political and economic drivers motivate the process. New Zealand has little to no economic influence, and our Government appears to be motivated by the long-term self-interest of its politicians, not what is best for the country as a whole, both acknowledged cultures inclusive.

[mashman]

It seems hugely short-sighted for the gummint to decide in favour of a short-term gain, but I won't be at all surprised to see a lot more of ill-considered asset sales and loss of sovereignty for a quick buck. "I told you so" won't fix it...

backdoor austerity measure?

[TrentNz]

don't really care as-long as they don't give it back to them fuckn Maoris.

[James Deuce]

don't really care as-long as they don't give it back to them fuckn Maoris.

Here's an example of racism. Unthinking hostility toward an ethnic group due to ill-informed opinions based in "common knowledge" and modern mythology.

People who don't agree with Chinese investment in New Zealand are not automatically racist. They have a different opinion about what constitutes a wise long-term investment policy.

[phill-k]

Unfortunately this sale does show a tendancy to ingrained racism, whether we want to admit it or not.

No-one worried too much when Shania Twain bought a property which is bigger than all the Crafar Farms put together.

Actually you are wrong most don't care about selling businesses, leases, and all the rest but when it comes to land, black white pink or green we need to own it as the Aussies, and all the other smart countries are proclaiming.
Don't try find a case of racism when there isn't. We are waking up to the fact that our land is precious and needs to remain in the ownership of NZr's. This is but the catalyst. Just look across the Tasman and their policies.

[Ocean1]

A prediction: They'll be a more successful investment for the new owners than they were for the last.

[phill-k]

NZ borrows billions to buy homes and businesses, nearly all of that money is borrowed from Australian Banks, where does all the profit go from that and how is that different from the Chinese buying land, they can't take the land anywhere.....

I have no problem with it.

I also have no issue if the country decided we didn't want to have oversees ownership and passed a law to protect it.

In a word bullshit, the very last thing you sell before turning off the lights is the land, Key doesn't give a fuck because shortly (next term) he is out of here, thankfully so am I, I be dead in 1 - 30 yrs and the chinese can kiss my ass

[Ocean1]

We are waking up to the fact that our land is precious and needs to remain in the ownership of NZr's.

I recall buying non-residential acreage a couple of decades ago. I had to demonstrate I was a native before the deal happened. Somewhere since then something's obviously changed.

[Teflon]

We let to many of these fuckers in anyway.. fuck it, sell them our land to..

and fuck those black cunts to.. they have stopped access to some very good waterways

[phill-k]

So Iwi wanted to buy it with what,beads? i doubt it no they would want to buy it with money leeched off New Zealanders which is even more sickening,good job its gone to who it has as theres a fair chance they will put it to good use and some New Zealanders will gain from it.The other option would have seen a fuck up like everything else thats given to Iwi."illegally confiscated"fuck thats getting boring.

Fuck off the bloody wanker wait antil they shaft you up the ass

[phill-k]

just out of curiosity...........examples please.........other than tibet
and shania ........grrrrrr

Watch and see, use the internet to educate yourself. They will continue with their philosophy of from wo to go, won't be much room for NZers' and NZ type wages. They have been securing land all over the place to build milk processing plants and will employ their own at their own rates. You can guarantee the returns to NZ will be no existent.