Crafar Farms?

[puddytat]

China sends warning.....I send

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farm...arm-saga#share

Citizens, the warnings are beginning.
We dont need to sell nothing, we if anything should just lease the land.
We just need to be patient & the hungrier they get.....the more we can make.
The whole world wishes they were us, under populated & over resourced. Kia Kaha Bros.....


The comments are interesting too....

[mashman]

wonder where the farms are going?

[mashman]

It's back on and what's more "Crafar farms sale sends important message overseas"...

"Jean-Pierre de Raad at the Institute for Economic Research says New Zealand relies on money coming in from abroad.

"The OECD has been telling us that we're one of the few countries that is raising its barriers, when in fact we are dependent on overseas investment for economic development, ideas, innovation. It's very important for economic growth.""

New Zealand is reliant on the rest of the world to keep it from Greecedom. Wonder what will happen when the loans are called in?
New Zealand can't generate ideas or innovate because it doesn't have the budget to do so.

I call bullshit, but what the fuck would I know... other than we're being lied too.

[puddytat]

Pretty daming graph aint it....& we cant blame Labour for it.
Why cant we put a spin on ourselves & country saying "Youll need us one day more than we need you"....

[Oblivion]

New Zealanders want a quick fix to the economic problem. Vote in someone who promises alot and does not live up to expectations. Vote him in for second term. If we found someone who has a good amount of ideas, and is not a complete asshole, but ideas will put the country in a pickle for a year or two until the debt can be paid off. Always made the hard decisions. Would get voted out within a term.

Logic.

When the Crafar farms came up for sale, and the Chinese company placed a bid on it, we'd already dug ourselves ahole that we couldn't get out of.
If we had said to them at the start, we are not comfortable selling this amount of land, would you consider a lease at a lesser price, We could of had something that both the NZ public and the chinese firm could have agreed on. Maybe

[avgas]

New Zealanders want a quick fix to the economic problem. Vote in someone who promises alot and does not live up to expectations. Vote him in for second term. If we found someone who has a good amount of ideas, and is not a complete asshole, but ideas will put the country in a pickle for a year or two until the debt can be paid off. Always made the hard decisions. Would get voted out within a term.

Logic.

I think it was not who people wanted to vote in, it was who they wanted voted out.
Its been mentioned (by others) before in other threads but the democracy system in NZ is broken.

Who would you pick between Stalin and Hitler?

[mashman]

Who would you pick between Stalin and Hitler?

Can we have both?

[oldrider]

I think it was not who people wanted to vote in, it was who they wanted voted out.
Its been mentioned (by others) before in other threads but the democracy system in NZ is broken.

Who would you pick between Stalin and Hitler?

Didn't she/he go to the United Nations to continue her work fucking over the rest of the world?

[pete376403]

When China was 'in a bit of a pickle', did it sell Hong Kong to the British? Did it, hell...

Old post and just noticed it but, no China did not sell HK to the British, they leased it for 99 years, which ended in July 1997. The lease was not rolled over and China retook control.

NZ (aka KeyCorp) is in more than just pickle (more like deep shit) but still should not be giving this land away, merely to bail out AUSTRALIAN banks.

Correction HK was taken by British in perpetuity but the New Territories were leased.

[Winston001]

Pretty daming graph aint it....& we cant blame Labour for it.

I agree the graph is damning but the previous Labour administration created the liabilities which had to be serviced when the GFC hurt our economy.

The hard answer would have been abandoning Working For Families, closing government departments, raising the pension age, and new higher taxes. No political party would do all of that but we did get increased GST.

The even harder reality is that voters hate tough decisions and won't support them.

Look at the riots in Greece and Spain, nations under the gun with governments trying to reduce expenditure.

[short-circuit]

I agree the graph is damning but the previous Labour administration created the liabilities which had to be serviced when the GFC hurt our economy.

The hard answer would have been abandoning Working For Families, closing government departments, raising the pension age, and new higher taxes. No political party would do all of that but we did get increased GST.

No the real answer is meaningful tax reform. A proper truely progressive tax structure. Not thining the tax base by providing cuts to those that don't need it.