Crafar Farms?

[Zamiam]

Fuck off you stupid pommel count this is our land

Right back at you - I'm of Ngati Rahiri of Te Ati Awa descent amongst everything else - what are you? A dole bludging immigrant by any chance?

Hey doesn't mean I agree with selling NZ to the foreigners BUT I also don't agree with government telling me who I can sell MY property to.

And for those ignorant racists out their - funnily enough some Maori hapus actually have "Asian" genes. One train of thought is that at least one of the "junks" of the great eunuch fleet was ship wrecked down south. So maybe the Chinese actuall arrived here before the Anglo Saxtons etc.

[98tls]

Right back at you - I'm of Ngati Rahiri of Te Ati Awa descent amongst everything else - what are you? A dole bludging immigrant by any chance?

Hey doesn't mean I agree with selling NZ to the foreigners BUT I also don't agree with government telling me who I can sell MY property to.

And for those ignorant racists out their - funnily enough some Maori hapus actually have "Asian" genes. One train of thought is that at least one of the "junks" of the great eunuch fleet was ship wrecked down south. So maybe the Chinese actuall arrived here before the Anglo Saxtons etc.

Imagine thatWontons done in Hangi styleno wonder KFCs so popular.

[mashman]

I woulda thought the next generation woulda been more important. Black Kiwi, White Kiwi, Yellow Kiwi, don't care, but as JK says, he'd hate for Kiwi to be tenants in their own land. Ahhh the future.

[mashman]

Imagine thatWontons done in Hangi styleno wonder KFCs so popular.

don't go hatin on the KFC mate.

[98tls]

I woulda thought the next generation woulda been more important. Black Kiwi, White Kiwi, Yellow Kiwi, don't care, but as JK says, he'd hate for Kiwi to be tenants in their own land. Ahhh the future.

Damn right they should be,$2.5 billion and climbing would go a long way towards making it a better place for future generations of New Zealanders but no sir cant be having that,the thing that pisses me off the most is i live and work amongst many Maori and they like myself wonder how there any better off as they havent seen nor benefitted from one bit of it nor have there children.

[puddytat]

People who don't agree with Chinese investment in New Zealand are not automatically racist. They have a different opinion about what constitutes a wise long-term investment policy.

That,for me ,sums it up pretty well

[mashman]

Damn right they should be,$2.5 billion and climbing would go a long way towards making it a better place for future generations of New Zealanders but no sir cant be having that,the thing that pisses me off the most is i live and work amongst many Maori and they like myself wonder how there any better off as they havent seen nor benefitted from one bit of it nor have there children.

Excellent, that means the govt won't have to borrow money for about 8 weeks. I'm sure we'll see the benefits of that...

Edit: or 6.5 weeks according to this (there's a real reason for it though ) and they still want to sell stuff.

[puddytat]

WTF!!!!!!

[Virago]

I rest my case...

[Virago]

...People who don't agree with Chinese investment in New Zealand are not automatically racist...

So it's more a case of economic fluctuations...?

[Trade_nancy]

your gonna have to be a bit more specific than that mate............wheres NZ chinatown then?

Isn't it on Queen Street, AK?

[Grubber]

No it doesn't. That is a common refrain from right-wing oriented commentators designed to quell any critical commentary from "right-thinking" liberal Kiwis. There are multiple examples of the Chinese taking ownership of land and businesses in countries foreign to them and simply removing any capability for the local yokels to share in any productive long or short term gains.

Shania Twain is an individual with no or limited political influence in her native land. The Chinese model of politics precludes any doubt that this isn't motivated by more than the simple desire for a single, very rich individual to capitalise on decades of hard work in exchange for a modern lifestyle with a rustic outlook in a comparatively safe physical, political, and economic environment.

I hesitate to say that it is the start of a land grab, but would not be surprised to see this become the start of a snowball that outstrips the expectations of those supposedly moderating foreign investment in New Zealand soil.

I think you will find that all the constraints that are put in place as part of the purchase will not allow them to do much more than farm as normal. I know they have to sell the milk fat to Fontera and they will have to rebuild these farms to a safe and usable commodity for dairying.
I could go on and on here, but i think you will find there is more than adequate restraints placed on them so that these properties are NZ gains.
What they are able to do in other countries is quite different to what they are able to do here.
It would have been nice to have them kiwi owned, but alas it was a kiwi that got us into this mess in the first place wasn't it! Recall the animal abuse etc that went on while in kiwi ownership.

[Grubber]

At the end of the day this is a bloody great country, most of us will never make the money those in the top 10% are who want to self indulge but forget the country and peoples that have allowed them to do well. Maori, Pakaha, who really cares so long as we own it and maintain the country we have. We have not crashed and burned like so many others in these turbulent times. Yes business isn't as good as it has been but it will come back, we can still ride, the weathers good, the roads are ok and this is the best fucken place in the world to live!

This i like. cool attitude!

[StoneY]

So Iwi wanted to buy it with what,beads? .

Had you been watching the many interviews with the Michael Faye lead group, you would have seen two gentlemen from their local Iwi, who clearly stated they had offered the same money for the two farms which were land taken from them in the 1800's.

The overall Crafar package, the Chinese offer's 40 mil more (drop in the bucket for our economy)
these two parcels of land, they offered the same full price, and a businessman who is from that tribe and happens to be wealthy was donating his Iwi the cash.

The rest of your post I found to be racist and informatory dude.... and you have totally missed the point.

Thanks to all the others commenting, I see a recurring opinion coming through for you all.
Many bloody good statements and points to consider.

So...do we start a rebellion?

[puddytat]

It will be quite a lot harder with the new legislation that arose from Christchurch & the govts increased powers to invoke martial law....
then the rednecks'll slag us all to hell just like with the "Occupiers" who are standing thier ground on pretty much the same issues of foreign & corporate ownership.