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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    maybe you should go there one day, they're just metres away down Wrightson way, don't think they're removable or inflatable...
    I go to the Pukekohe race track about half a dozen times a year. I did notice them doing that development. Still, they did choose to build them near the track on their own free will ...

    How about if I bought the house next to yours, that you'd been at for many decades, and then complained that the colour of the paint on your house was impacting the visual environment of the area and hurting my eyes and then I asked the council to commence monitoring your use of your house and to kick you out, with no notice, any time that visual pollution became too difficult for my eyes to deal with?

    Just saying ...

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    Best thing to do?? Start building walls. Really tall ones.
    Zen wisdom: No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously. - obviously had KB in mind when he came up with that gem

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    From what everyones' told me it would've been Black Flag Flyspray wouldn't it Budda?
    Couldnt POSSIBLY comment !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bloodclots on bottomhole not fully formed as of yet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    As we have found out at Roy's Hill kart track with the buckets, it seems the MNZ 95 db limit is irrelevant when it comes to complying with the consent or local authority limits. 70 db at the boundry on a Sat morning, then 40 db Sat pm and all day Sunday for a rural property. So if you start the chainsaw and a cow just happens to fart at the same time, you are screwed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    Best thing to do?? Start building walls. Really tall ones.
    Not a terrible idea at all. A couple of layers of even those thin trees the farmers use (particularly around Tauranga etc) as windbreaks might do a world of good!


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    Trees work by diffusing the sound - walls don't work unless you can put a roof on too, as they reflect sound upward to bounce off cloud layers...

    Really, the few times I've been to the Classic Festival, I've been amazed at the liberties taken with the noise regs - it was going to catch up with them eventually.
    Pull your heads out of the sand - as Budda has said, all clubs got a noise meter - learn how to use it.

    I've had a talk with a customer of mine who was racing there - and had no problems with noise.....Because everything I build for classic or post classic racing is effectively silenced. He tells me everyone was warned and should have been prepared for what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Trees work by diffusing the sound - walls don't work unless you can put a roof on too, as they reflect sound upward to bounce off cloud layers...

    Really, the few times I've been to the Classic Festival, I've been amazed at the liberties taken with the noise regs - it was going to catch up with them eventually.
    Pull your heads out of the sand - as Budda has said, all clubs got a noise meter - learn how to use it.

    I've had a talk with a customer of mine who was racing there - and had no problems with noise.....Because everything I build for classic or post classic racing is effectively silenced. He tells me everyone was warned and should have been prepared for what happened.
    Bingo!!! Had the same problems at Manfeild earlier on,Problem is,The competitors were more interested in arguing the point and blaming everybody and anybody else for the problems than they were in doing anything about rectifying the problem at their end

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    Common sense has to prevail here guys, do something about the noise your bike makes now.

    It is not only the classics or post classics (although they are the worst offenders) full blown superbikes and some 600’s have been pinged at club rounds (we use our noise meter at every event we organise).

    Blaming others isn’t going to fix ‘your’ problem!

    Just imagine turning up to the next club round at Puke or the 4th round of the Nationals at Hampton Downs in touch with the leader board and having to sit it out and watch it all go away because you didn’t stick to the dBA limit and modify a noisy exhaust, stink aye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantnz View Post
    As we have found out at Roy's Hill kart track with the buckets, it seems the MNZ 95 db limit is irrelevant when it comes to complying with the consent or local authority limits. 70 db at the boundry on a Sat morning, then 40 db Sat pm and all day Sunday for a rural property. So if you start the chainsaw and a cow just happens to fart at the same time, you are screwed.
    The 95db is not an arbitrary number that MNZ plucked out of thin air - it is a decibel limit already in place at the purpose-built permanent racetracks that our Clubs use for racing. Noise is one of the major factors we are seen as anti-social, given that a lot of our competing is done at the weekends, when "most" folks are at home relaxing after a week in their particular salt-mine. Thank goodness REAL racing isnt as annoying as the high guard variant !!!!!!!

    This battle has been looming for more than a few years, and within MNZ is quite a lot of experience dealing with noise objections from foreign life-stylers etc, who move into earshot of a track and expect pre-existing users to respect the tranquility they think they bought, maybe even were SOLD by unscrupulous land agents with an agenda the same shape as their wallet .........

    This problem is VERY REAL, ITS HERE NOW, and we ALL have a vested interest in ensuring it doesnt get worse
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    Quote Originally Posted by budda View Post
    Every MNZ member Club was issued an approved Noise Meter SEVERAL YEARS ago, for all the above reasons ....... suggest all racers ask their own Club to not only bring the meter to the next meeting, but USE the thing - odds are the reading will not be identical to the Councils, but will still give a good indication as to whether the bike is close enough to the limit to warrant a bit of attention in the attenuation department. Forewarned IS fore-armed ..............
    Your average used lawnmower runs pretty close to the limit, my EX would be black-flagged if/WHEN she arced up too !!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/down...STRUCTIONS.pdf

    The MNZ link to show how to conduct a noise test. This is for a single bike. So those talking about reference points at different tracks for taking readings, are they measuring a group of bikes during a race, or single bikes at set revs.
    I agree that noise levels need to come down, but there needs to be some consistency and science applied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grantnz View Post
    http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/down...STRUCTIONS.pdf

    The MNZ link to show how to conduct a noise test. This is for a single bike. So those talking about reference points at different tracks for taking readings, are they measuring a group of bikes during a race, or single bikes at set revs.
    I agree that noise levels need to come down, but there needs to be some consistency and science applied.
    I beleive there was an MNZ rep with the noise tester while readings were taken.
    It's not rocket science when you see bikes with open straight pipes and many others with simple reverse megaphones, we're not in the 1950's now.

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