An All Black in the firing line again

[MSTRS:Me]

. I have seen first hand a GP warn one of these La Leche League followers that if she continues breastfeeding her child (instead of promptly weening), there will be a number of psychological issues for the child; such as development of self, independence, etc. The GP was adamant the child was getting to old to be breast feeding still. True story.

Uh huh...and what age was that child?

[The Lone Rider]

Uh huh...and what age was that child?

Old enough to not need breast feeding. That's for certain.

You can check out the discussions at https://www.facebook.com/CampbellLiveNZ

Few people there saying they know La Leche NZ followers who breastfeed their kids as late as 5, 6 and 7 years old. That would seem pretty late wouldn't you think?

[MSTRS:Me]

I've seen 5, maybe 6 year olds. Not really feeding, I guess, more of the cuddle with extras.
Agree - way too old. But then, when IS too old? There isn't any hard and fast rule, is there?

[ducatilover]

So he got BUSTed with a bottle?



Hypothetical situation:
Mother dies after birth, father is left with baby. Baby dies because he isn't able to grow breasts in time. Father is congratulated by total tit tossers (who ever these plonkers are) for keeping his baby safe and away from bottles or being fed by a dirty stinky man.



To push this idea through, the need better cleaverage.

[FJRider]

Interesting ... they promote themselves as an international, non govermental organisition ... yet claim the scenes removed in the (anti-smoking) advert would ... undermine "another Goverment funded campaign that supports breastfeeding" ... There are other ones ... ???

But it's ok ... apparently ... it's the NZ Hearalds fault for publishing an "inflamitory" article ...

[The Lone Rider]

I've seen 5, maybe 6 year olds. Not really feeding, I guess, more of the cuddle with extras.
Agree - way too old. But then, when IS too old? There isn't any hard and fast rule, is there?

In theory you and I could still be doing it.

Psychology has many valid points though. Children do need to develop independence and the idea and understanding they are their own person. While I can't show you any studies to back up what I say, and I'm not willing to do the research right now either, there is definitely a profound juncture in a child's life where it's important they move onto solids and the coddling of breast feeding need stop. This is around 2 years of age. Of course varies child to child, and there are some that say the child will stop when the child is ready (as opposed to the parent deciding what's best).

You can still of course cuddle the child, which has a different psychological affect than breastfeeding.

One thing I see though is a lack of understanding or admitting from the likes of "breast nazis", that breastfeeding psychologically affects the mother as well.

I would take a stab that the special feeling of breastfeeding, for some mothers, would consciously or unconsciously make them not want to give it up. To that end, they may or may not argue that carrying on breastfeeding for many years is best for the child, when possibly their reasoning has more to do with the way it makes them feel (the mothers wants, not the childs needs). Or of course they just simply have the opinion it's better for the child.

I am by far no expert - I have plenty of opinion on the subject, and some basic memories of my child development studies when I did an entry level psychology diploma.

[FJRider]

TV One news will discuss the issue tonight. (shortly)

[FJRider]

On Close Up ... shortly (TV1)

[slofox]

Oh all the boon-fucking-doggling...what effing next?

[scissorhands]

Fonterra staying in mantrol
Babies suffer poor diet


sometimes a parrot talks

[Number One]

The Breastapo need to pull their farking heads in!!!

Agree completely! So pissed to hear they've pulled the ad - such bollocks.

Anyway - who says there wasn't breast milk in the god damn bottle anyway.

Isn't the fact that it was a positive image of a daddy feeding and caring and bonding with his bubba a good thing??!!

The ad wasn't even about feeding the god damn baby anyway - bloody disgusting

[Berries]

Agree - way too old. But then, when IS too old? There isn't any hard and fast rule, is there?

I found that when I left home for Uni I had to give it up.

[MSTRS:Me]

That woman on CloseUp ... my god!!! The crap she spouted must have done untold damage to the cause of breastfeeding.
She'd be the first to scream propaganda and censorship if this situation was applied to breastfeeding.
Forty years ago, we had the screaming hordes of women's libbers, who insisted that women could do anything and 'changed the world'. Sort of, anyway. The point is tho, nothing was sacrosanct and their efforts lead to a blurring of gender roles as most people understood them. Funny how one of the two things that only women can do is considered so off-limits to men that a commercial can be altered by the likes of a La Leche Nazi.
Men may not have the biological equipment (yet? *shudder*) but 'we' are perfectly capable of having a hand in the feeding of our babies. A man who wants to should be encouraged...they will have a better relationship with their child/ren because of it, for a start.

The mantra 'Breast is best' should be "Breast MILK is best" because that is what they meant when it was coined.

I wonder what that woman and her ilk would say if a mother installed a system that delivered formula through her own nipples? Would that be ok?

[nudemetalz]

My wife and I walked out of an ante-natal class about 2 and a half years ago (before no.1 was born obviously) as they were giving us crap like you should only breast-feed and bottle feeding will do harm like brain damage etc. I told them it was all a bunch of bollocks. I wasn't popular but didn't care.
My wife couldn't express so both of our kids have been bottle-fed on formula by both of us.
They have turned out healthy, intelligent and happy.

[Paul in NZ]

Bloody breast feeding Nazi's hi jacking someone elses media spend to promote their own cause.

Frankly I think they have a good cause BUT are actually doing themselves great harm here. Sure - breast is best but there are a zillion reasons why formula has a place you can't be too one eyed about it. Vicki always breast fed but with twins there comes a time you just can't make enough milk and have to companion feed formula.

I full support their good intentions but utterly deplore their methods in this case.