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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Excellent solution... so what did the Romans ever do for us
    Well if you think about it, a roman chariot is pretty much an early version of the motorcycle, very low horsepower (usually only around 2), and while it has the requisite number of wheels, they are a bit on the piss and make it hard to lean steer, but for some old school fullas who had huge problems with 2 gauls (one large and one small), I think they did alright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Well if you think about it, a roman chariot is pretty much an early version of the motorcycle, very low horsepower (usually only around 2), and while it has the requisite number of wheels, they are a bit on the piss and make it hard to lean steer, but for some old school fullas who had huge problems with 2 gauls (one large and one small), I think they did alright.
    Similar suspension to the Corvette too
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Do you have any proof of this?

    Or are you just spouting shit?
    Can't be bothered sourcing all of it, most of it comes from pretty typical statistical analysis of NZer incomes.

    From a 2004 Study

    "The ethnic gaps are also generally widest in education, with 33.6% of both Maori and Pacific employees paid below $12 per hour in education, as against 19.3% of European/Pakeha and 23.1% of those in other ethnic groups. However, Maori in health services also have a high incidence of low pay, with 34% below $12 as against 15.2% of European/Pakeha, 24.7% of Pacific employees, and 12.3% of other ethnic groups."

    NZQA 2008 publishing

    "The Europeans yearly median income in 2008 is between $25000 - $30000, whereas the
    other ethnic groups are between $15000 - $20000 in 2008"


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    What are the differences between European/Pakeha and New Zealnders' and others?
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Can't be bothered sourcing all of it, most of it comes from pretty typical statistical analysis of NZer incomes.

    From a 2004 Study

    "The ethnic gaps are also generally widest in education, with 33.6% of both Maori and Pacific employees paid below $12 per hour in education, as against 19.3% of European/Pakeha and 23.1% of those in other ethnic groups. However, Maori in health services also have a high incidence of low pay, with 34% below $12 as against 15.2% of European/Pakeha, 24.7% of Pacific employees, and 12.3% of other ethnic groups."

    NZQA 2008 publishing

    "The Europeans yearly median income in 2008 is between $25000 - $30000, whereas the
    other ethnic groups are between $15000 - $20000 in 2008"
    No shit. Whites are normally better qualified, and therefore have better jobs than Maoris, so of course the pay is going to differ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    No shit. Whites are normally better qualified, and therefore have better jobs than Maoris, so of course the pay is going to differ.
    Slowly getting there... so why are whites better qualified?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Slowly getting there... so why are whites better qualified?
    Because they generally choose to further their education beyond high school compared to Maori who usually don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    What are the differences between European/Pakeha and New Zealnders' and others?
    Some NZ Europeans don't like being called European/Pakeha and just want to be known as New Zealanders for being born here and ignore their ethnicity. It's pretty much the 'I don't wish to disclose' option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Slowly getting there... so why are whites better qualified?
    Are you suggesting that Maori don't have an equal opportunity to gain qualifications?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    Because they generally choose to further their education beyond high school compared to Maori who usually don't.
    Why do Maori generally choose not to further their education? Why do they generally get low marks throughout primary and secondary education?

    Is the education system used in this country developed by Maori, or does it come from English history, and therefore those with white cultural backgrounds find it easier to succeed within such a system? Does Maori culture make parents drive children to get to university as much as Asian/Pakeha parents do? Why do the parents not push them to the same degree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Why do Maori generally choose not to further their education? Why do they generally get low marks throughout primary and secondary education?

    Is the education system used in this country developed by Maori, or does it come from English history, and therefore those with white cultural backgrounds find it easier to succeed within such a system? Does Maori culture make parents drive children to get to university as much as Asian/Pakeha parents do? Why do the parents not push them to the same degree?
    You're 17 right?

    The education system we have has been around for a number of years now.

    To suggest that Maori are disadvantaged by it, or don't have the same opportunities from it, is utter bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Are you suggesting that Maori don't have an equal opportunity to gain qualifications?
    I'm not necessarily saying the opportunity isn't there, but that a large number of factors contribute to the lack of qualifications they gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Why do Maori generally choose not to further their education? Why do they generally get low marks throughout primary and secondary education?

    Is the education system used in this country developed by Maori, or does it come from English history, and therefore those with white cultural backgrounds find it easier to succeed within such a system? Does Maori culture make parents drive children to get to university as much as Asian/Pakeha parents do? Why do the parents not push them to the same degree?
    So what do you suggest a Maori education should be like? If they want to succeed in the modern world and educate themselves to a high level and have a well paid job that isn't totally corrupt like a politician, then what education do you expect them to do? If they want to do the same job as a white person then they have to qualify themself to the same level.

    Maori people don't push themself to the same extent in terms of education because they are generally less intelligent than white people. They generally don't have the same goals or ambitions as the rest of us, and many of them choose to live a life of crime instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    I'm not necessarily saying the opportunity isn't there, but that a large number of factors contribute to the lack of qualifications they gain.
    That does not make them under-privledged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    You're 17 right?

    The education system we have has been around for a number of years now.

    To suggest that Maori are disadvantaged by it, or don't have the same opportunities from it, is utter bullshit.
    You've been on a diplomacy course lately, right?

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