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    Help with first bike?

    Hi there
    Im new to motorbikes and plan on buy one soon but im not too sure what bikes to go for and what to stay away from.
    Basically what i want is something with a bit of power as i plan on using it to commute from the country into the city and also for abit of fun in the weekends.
    From my limited research i have done i have figured i would prefer something with a 4 stroke 4 cylinder and something from the early 90's
    So basically i have been looking at ZXR's, FZR's, CBR's and GSX's, and out of those i have been looking more at the FZR's and GSX's as they seem cheaper than the others.
    Is there any other bikes that i should be looking at?

    Also is there any good ways to tell if a bikes odo has been wound back?

    Thanks.

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    Get life, trauma, and disability insurance and sign up for Southern Cross before you get your license.
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    bandit 250 144kg 38hp inline 4 maybe

    idd be getting compression tests on the late 80s early 90s sports bikes if you can alot have been well hammered.

    general wear and tear of chains sprockets swinger bearings etc will tell you how well looked after they were.A poor maintened 250 costs a bit to get up to scratch so maybe spend a little more on one than go to cheap.

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-446550817.htm

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-445900311.htm

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-448233598.htm
    add 430 for plate rego 6months and 6months warrent and check that its got correct paperwork and police no interest cert aswell
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    Great idea about health etc insurance before i get my license!

    I actually was looking at that 89 GSX250R which is why i asked about checking the odo.

    thanks for the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asher View Post
    Great idea about health etc insurance before i get my license!

    I actually was looking at that 89 GSX250R which is why i asked about checking the odo.

    thanks for the help
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    Its already been nz rego so you just need go police station and get letter of no interest(theft)from them which is free.
    Also it didnt need brake declaration done as its pre89 but at least you know the discs are above min wear now.

    Allow the $430 and a tune up cost etc maybe $300 for jets and tune and change oil and filter so its really a 3K bike on the road.
    Idd still try get someone to check it for you to make sure its sound in the motor and the speedo indicated prob isnt correct

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    That's a brilliant deal
    I'd try get an MC19 CBR250R or 3LN3 FZR250 because they're great value for a 4cyl 250.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asher View Post
    Hi there
    Im new to motorbikes and plan on buy one soon but im not too sure what bikes to go for and what to stay away from.
    Basically what i want is something with a bit of power as i plan on using it to commute from the country into the city and also for abit of fun in the weekends.
    From my limited research i have done i have figured i would prefer something with a 4 stroke 4 cylinder and something from the early 90's
    So basically i have been looking at ZXR's, FZR's, CBR's and GSX's, and out of those i have been looking more at the FZR's and GSX's as they seem cheaper than the others.
    Is there any other bikes that i should be looking at?

    Also is there any good ways to tell if a bikes odo has been wound back?

    Thanks.
    welcome to KB - be careful not to feed the trolls.
    Its good that you have some idea of the style of bike you want, but there is still plenty of variety with the 4 cylinder 250 scope - Yamaha Zeal, the Bandit, the Hornet, a ZZR.....
    Most people generally regard the cbr 250 as being the superior bike of the bunch you mentioned, due to them usually surviving longer kms etc, but they are all much of a muchness.
    If you really want to buy a 20 year old 250 with a 19-20,000 rpm redline, what you need to be looking for are sings of good maintenance, any receipts or service paperwork would be a bonus.

    My advice to you is to try and take a few different bikes for a ride if you can before you hand over any cash - you might find that the bikes you like dont suit you after having tried them out - (always wanted a tl, until I rode one - not my cup of tea).

    Also, if you can take someone with you to look at the thing, Im sure you could talk a local KBer into helping you out for payment of beer to make sure the bike is in good nick.

    as for the KMs, you can Carjam the rego of the bike, and that will give you some indication as to whether the KMs are legit or not.

    when you buy something make sure you post pics!

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    So would you guys consider the gsx as a good buy?
    Would it need a tune as it has done such low km's or just as its been sitting so long?

    What exactly is the need for a police cert? do i need it to get re-reg'd or simply a piece of mind?

    thanks again.

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    The CBR250R is a much better deal and is a better bike in every way.
    The carbs on that GSXR may just need a simple clean from fuel varnishing the jets after sitting for some time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asher View Post
    So would you guys consider the gsx as a good buy?
    Would it need a tune as it has done such low km's or just as its been sitting so long?

    What exactly is the need for a police cert? do i need it to get re-reg'd or simply a piece of mind?

    thanks again.
    just take the plate number and chasis number if he will give it to you to the local station and ask for declaration of no interest.Its free and you take that when you go to get plate/warrent/rego at vtnz which is basically same as getting warrent and rego but with 110 extra dollars for the plate(memory on that cost only).Bikes pre 91 dont need the brake declaration but take it also.You cant get less than 6months rego if getting new plates so 430 all up is about correct.The carbs will be fulla crap from sitting jets blocked and floats may need cleaned and set etc.$300 at a good bike shop should cover it.And $60 for some bike oil and $15 for a filter.
    Remember dont buy it based on desire get someone into bikes that you can trust to help you out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asher View Post
    So would you guys consider the gsx as a good buy?
    I wouldn't even bother looking at it. It's a project, not a bike you should expect to be able to ride home.

    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    The CBR250R is a much better deal and is a better bike in every way.
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    think it through.
    The GSXR is 2400, plus at LEAST $450 to get it legal again, more if it needs say a new tyre ($200) or chain and sprockets ($250 ish) etc, theres no way to know for sure until you put it through, plus theres a lot of hassle.
    So youre looking at bare minimum of $2850 for a legal bike, plus a bit of hassle and mucking around.

    option two, spend an extra 150 and buy the ZXR, and you are legal from day dot. youll need to pay rego, and probably a new tyre by the sounds of it, but tyres are consumable anyway.

    option three, cost the same as option two, except that it has both rego and WOF that are current, it comes with a bunch of riding gear, and you can get on it and ride it away. - its or near offer, so you might cut the price down a tad too.

    For me, it would be the CBR hands down.
    The GSXR could be a money pit, and you have no way to know until you start the vin process, the ZXR seems quite good, but needs a tyre and rego, the honda is ride away with extras.

    Buy the CBR.

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    thanks for the input.
    The main reason i was looking at the gsxr was its low km's which i figure it shouldnt require any major work for at least 15k+km's and im not bothered about paying for new reg and wof as basically any bike im looking at would require that within a couple of months.

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    also i just need to get my head around something, will i need to a letter of no interest from the cops if it has been registered in nz before and the rego has simply lapsed?

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