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    Kawasaki experts!! Clutch and exhaust Qs

    My GPZ400r has the clutch rattle at idle that Kawas seem to get. Is it worth worrying about? from what Ive read overseas you just ignore it but am happy to replace the clutch later on as funds allow our not bother. Clutch functions fine.

    The attached pic is one of my mufflers, is it worth trying to debaffle it? Will it improve HP? Not really looking for more noise.
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    I will add the pic this time.
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    The rattle is actually the shock absorbing backplate. These Kawas have rubber shock absorbing inserts in the backplate rather than the more usual springs. The rubber takes a pemanent set giving a certain amount of free movement.
    Many years ago I replaced the rubbers with a set of urethane inserts I made up. Worked well but probably too much work to be cost effective when the standard fix is simply to turn up the idle....

    As soon as you debaffle the mufflers you're going to be asking about carburation problems......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    The rattle is actually the shock absorbing backplate. These Kawas have rubber shock absorbing inserts in the backplate rather than the more usual springs. The rubber takes a pemanent set giving a certain amount of free movement.
    Many years ago I replaced the rubbers with a set of urethane inserts I made up. Worked well but probably too much work to be cost effective when the standard fix is simply to turn up the idle....

    As soon as you debaffle the mufflers you're going to be asking about carburation problems......
    OIC. Ive not had it apart. Only get it at cold idle.

    Im happy to re-jet carbs to suit if there are real gains to be had.
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    Why would there be any gains? Its an 80s 400, it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Why would there be any gains? Its an 80s 400, it is what it is.
    As in they are quicker than modern 400s, yes i agree.
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    what is a modern 400? do the japs still make em for the local market?, thought they had given up bikes.
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    If you need a clutch basket, try find if a ZZR400k one will fit, I've got a complete clutch with new linings and spare second hand linings I'll be happy to get some money stuff for? Clutch springs included

    Off to google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    If you need a clutch basket, try find if a ZZR400k one will fit, I've got a complete clutch with new linings and spare second hand linings I'll be happy to get some money stuff for? Clutch springs included

    Off to google.
    Wonder if they fix the rattle useing springs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Wonder if they fix the rattle useing springs?
    Possibly? Could even be a loose hub nut on the clutch?
    I can't find a parts fiche for the GPZ400 so can't compare part numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    \m happy to re-jet carbs to suit if there are real gains to be had.
    Some gain with an aftermarket exaust system maybe ... with correct jetting done at the same time. Hacking the old one, usually just gives you more noise ... even with re-jetting. Single figure % of horse-power increase's ...

    Make the most of what you have ... you should keep up with bigger bikes under 180 km/hr. Through the windy's ... be ahead ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post

    Make the most of what you have ... you should keep up with bigger bikes under 180 km/hr. Through the windy's ... be ahead ...
    Not any modern ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    Possibly? Could even be a loose hub nut on the clutch?
    I can't find a parts fiche for the GPZ400 so can't compare part numbers
    From the post above sounds like something to do with Rubber being used instead of springs. Lots on internet about the noise and most say just bring up the idle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Some gain with an aftermarket exaust system maybe ... with correct jetting done at the same time. Hacking the old one, usually just gives you more noise ... even with re-jetting. Single figure % of horse-power increase's ...

    Make the most of what you have ... you should keep up with bigger bikes under 180 km/hr. Through the windy's ... be ahead ...
    Dont really want more noise so will ride it as it is. Will check plugs to see how she is doing at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    Not any modern ones
    More would depend on the rider ... more than the bike ... Unless it's a Ducati ... then you don't try.
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