Post-Classic rules on engine swapping

[steveyb]

As is the case at HD next week according to the confirmed entry list I have???

Can you or someone post the list(s) somewhere, dude?

Cheers eers.

[Billy]

Can you or someone post the list(s) somewhere, dude?

Cheers eers.

Email sent

[DMack]

The RG500 is mine and it is definitely classed as a PC senior bike - I made an error on my entry form as i had been running in juniors on the 750 Duc previously , this has since been sorted although too late for the program.

[sharky]

The RG500 is mine and it is definitely classed as a PC senior bike - I made an error on my entry form as i had been running in juniors on the 750 Duc previously , this has since been sorted although too late for the program.

Bloody muppet - haha.

[NAR RG500]

The RG500 is mine and it is definitely classed as a PC senior bike - I made an error on my entry form as i had been running in juniors on the 750 Duc previously , this has since been sorted although too late for the program.

What a tool aye!!!!!! Muppet is an understatement!!!!!

[DMack]

Bloody muppet - haha.

Yeah so ill buy you a beer next time we're down at the Kiwi Tavern...

What a tool aye!!!!!! Muppet is an understatement!!!!!

And you too....oh wait last time, nek minute

[crazy man]

Ouch man I havent had a Pie in the last hour!! anyway l'm going to smash the pre 89 f1 lap record with the extra pie weight with my 489cc big bore kit l'v been running for years so sux on that

l new you had that big bore kit ! when you did a 1.35 out there

[worm13]

l new you had that big bore kit ! when you did a 1.35 out there

shhhh dont tell everyone... I used your colt cam stickers as the reason it was so fast to help to bring in some biz for ya

[crazy man]

shhhh dont tell everyone... I used your colt cam stickers as the reason it was so fast to help to bring in some biz for ya

looks like things are looking up soon

[codgyoleracer]

You missed one bike too..... Sorted that too.

Sorry GW....!

HaHa , I'll survive mate :-)


What really concerns me is if 44cc makes such a big difference in the Juniors, - what am i to do agaist the 200cc bigger machines that compete against my little 1002cc bimota, - i may as well stop racing ......... :-)

Now where's that crank handle ?
GW

[malcy25]

HaHa , I'll survive mate :-)


What really concerns me is if 44cc makes such a big difference in the Juniors, - what am i to do agaist the 200cc bigger machines that compete against my little 1002cc bimota, - i may as well stop racing ......... :-)

Now where's that crank handle ?
GW

steady........!

[steveyb]

HaHa , I'll survive mate :-)


What really concerns me is if 44cc makes such a big difference in the Juniors, - what am i to do agaist the 200cc bigger machines that compete against my little 1002cc bimota, - i may as well stop racing ......... :-)

Now where's that crank handle ?
GW

So there!! Nyah nyah nyah.....

[Peter Smith]

HaHa , I'll survive mate :-)


What really concerns me is if 44cc makes such a big difference in the Juniors, - what am i to do agaist the 200cc bigger machines that compete against my little 1002cc bimota, - i may as well stop racing ......... :-)

Now where's that crank handle ?
GW

Size does matter, dispite what some woman say. You poor fella.
As for you stopping racing......sounds a good idea to me, but I'd still need Eddie Kat, Paul Gee, Dave Cole etc... to retire before I could win.

[Peter Smith]

You missed one bike too..... Sorted that too.

Sorry GW....!

How many bikes in PC class? (re at Hampton Downs)
As we are all racing together and the races are 8 - 12 laps (TT) will the speed difference lapping riders be an issue?
(Can't have GW lapping me )

[MOTOXXX]

If your modus operandi is that you are "against the 450's thing for budget reasons" - then i would quietly suggest that this not be part of your proposed remit as there is a good chance it will fall on deaf ears if on that basis.

Your own "percived budget" will be very different to someone elses. Another competitor might think your own investment is "excessive" and want the rules changed to suit their own affordability. Or someone that can afford to spend more will look at your own effort as half-arsed and job not done right.
Its all relevant aye.
Any rules rules must and are mostly written for the "good of the whole" , thats why they are so dammed hard to write.

My suggestion (& its not) if you wanted a cost limitation based set of rules is to be submitted , would be to draft to read along the lines of the superstock rules for the era. You would need to have specific rules for all major components of the bike. However a set of rules like that becomes quite difficult when they are trying to encompass so many varied models / designs.

The only other set of rules that appear effective in controlling investment - is the "buy back" rule.

Best have a re-think on how best to approach MNZ on that one.


GW

agreed - budget reasons doesnt really come into it.

Example take say... a zxr400 and install a 450 kit - around $1500 all up.
TTS provide these kits for $960 at current exchange rate,

Take any standard 400 and upgrade the rear shock to Ohlins and do some work to the front forks.....$1200-$1800? How many 400's have Ohlins shocks and front end suspension work?

reliability hasnt really been an issue for most people at vic club providing you dont string them out. The only 450 i have seen blow up is neils and that was at nationals and wasnt legal for posties anyway.

neils zxr450 ran at vic club / Pac club for about 3 seasons and had no issues.

AJ ran his for about 1.5 seasons at vic club (ran on standard suspension instead of spending money on aftermarket stuff)
ive run mine for about 1.5 seasons and hasnt died yet (touch wood)

people will just spend the money in other areas and on sweet unobtainium rare kit parts. Like barrys bike has some primo stuff on it. id love a set of his marvic rims if i could find them, i bet they would be more than a 450 kit.

i hope 89 posties class continues to grow, its an awesome class.



Eamon