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    Gotta feel for the Greek people

    Yet another government fucking up its economy and expecting the people and the finances of other countries to bail them out... Can't wait for NZ to go broke... I quite fancy seeing what kind of TV JK has...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8664161.stm
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Yet another government fucking up its economy and expecting the people and the finances of other countries to bail them out... Can't wait for NZ to go broke... I quite fancy seeing what kind of TV JK has...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8664161.stm
    Yep - too many benefits for people. 14 to 16 months salary for g'ment works per year, retire on 80% at 55.

    You cannot spend spend spend and borrow, borrow borrow and expect not to go broke. Thank fuck JK got in and broke the labour "spend spend spend and borrow, borrow borrow" model and actually is making NZ live within its means.

    of course the leafties want more and more for the poor and nett takers of soceity - they are the fuckers that cause the issue - so Wayhay National ! way to go guys !

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I quite fancy seeing what kind of TV JK has...
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8664161.stm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Why hasn't skyrider been along to explain that "the Greek Crisis was caused by the National party"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Yep - too many benefits for people. 14 to 16 months salary for g'ment works per year, retire on 80% at 55.

    You cannot spend spend spend and borrow, borrow borrow and expect not to go broke. Thank fuck JK got in and broke the labour "spend spend spend and borrow, borrow borrow" model and actually is making NZ live within its means.

    of course the leafties want more and more for the poor and nett takers of soceity - they are the fuckers that cause the issue - so Wayhay National ! way to go guys !
    I read somewhere about endemic corruption in Greece. The example was you pay extra taxes or levies for water if you have a swimming pool: makes sense: Greece is hot. There were something like 6000 registered swimming pools in Athens, but when they did an aeiral survey it turned out there were 60 THOUSAND. maybe I read that in "The Economist"? recently? will see if i can find a reference.
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    I felt sorry for the Greek people until they murdered innocent people and destroyed innocent peoples property, just to make life that little bit harder for them. Now they (well ok only the rioters) deserve every bit of hardship they get.

    Why the fuck do protestors attack police BTW? I never understood that. Assaulting and murdering innocent people does'nt get back at parliament. Really pissed me off when I saw that molotov set that cop of fire. What the fuck did that achieve other than potentially taking away another equally affected families father?

    I think when cops start getting attacked they should be required (not permitted required) to open fire with live rounds on all protestors who do'nt immediately disperse. Why the fuck should they be attacked and killed over something they have nothing to fucken do with? Time and time again. It's B/S and it needs to stop.

    Anyone who disagrees should be made to stand a riot line with some cops, with no protective gear on, and see how they like things they have no control over be taken out on them, via molotovs and voilent animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    I read somewhere about endemic corruption in Greece. The example was you pay extra taxes or levies for water if you have a swimming pool: makes sense: Greece is hot. There were something like 6000 registered swimming pools in Athens, but when they did an aeiral survey it turned out there were 60 THOUSAND. maybe I read that in "The Economist"? recently? will see if i can find a reference.
    Yup, read about that the other day here Much tax avoidance it would seem
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    There were something like 6000 registered swimming pools in Athens, but when they did an aeiral survey it turned out there were 60 THOUSAND.
    So, it's the rich swimming pool owning pricks that are the problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    Why the fuck do protestors attack police BTW? I never understood that. Assaulting and murdering innocent people does'nt get back at parliament.
    You're quite right, and it is herd/mob instinct, which is not our best work, typically. But maybe they feel they have no other effective option? Maybe there is a time that violent revolution is called for. Not saying this is the case in Greece, which I know little about other than it's a complex mix of social, government, big bank, and finance company corruption. Are there any good guys in the Greek mess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    But maybe they feel they have no other effective option? Maybe there is a time that violent revolution is called for.
    There's very, very few times where that's almost appropriate.(I never think it's ok to take it out on those who have absolutely nothing to do with it) However every time a coconut, a cop gets bottled because a whale was killed on the other side of the world.....by boats owned by another country.So to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    Why the fuck do protestors attack police BTW? I never understood that.
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    Because the people that caused the problems aren't about to stand up in front of an angry mob, and the Police are seen as a representative of "the man".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    Because the people that caused the problems aren't about to stand up in front of an angry mob, and the Police are seen as a representative of "the man".
    Any excuse for violence I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    Why the fuck do protestors attack police BTW? I never understood that. Assaulting and murdering innocent people does'nt get back at parliament. Really pissed me off when I saw that molotov set that cop of fire. What the fuck did that achieve other than potentially taking away another equally affected families father?



    Anyone who disagrees should be made to stand a riot line with some cops, with no protective gear on, and see how they like things they have no control over be taken out on them, via molotovs and voilent animals.
    The cops choose their career. Nobody forces them to stand in front of government buildings. If they choose to put themselves in the way of the real culprits (the politicians) then I have no sympathy when they get attacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    Why the fuck do protestors attack police BTW?
    I think they get attacked in some cases because they are trying to suppress legitimate, peaceful protest with heavy handed tactics (e.g. kettling) - I don't know how much this applies to the Greek case.

    My opinion of police handling of protests has certainly gone down hill in recent years. UK police seem to treat any protesters as a nuisance or worse. If people are not able to protest peacefully, things can easily get out of hand and turn nasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    The cops choose their career. Nobody forces them to stand in front of government buildings. If they choose to put themselves in the way of the real culprits (the politicians) then I have no sympathy when they get attacked.
    I did'nt realise you were ignorant. They do'nt get a choice, they stand that line because they're told to. You ca'nt just say you do'nt want to do it, you are ordered there.

    Stupid fucken cops though eh bro? Heaven help society when no-one wants to get out and help out in the community and do their bit, because we make stupid excuses for the violence towards them like you just did. I hope you are attacked for your career choice, i'll feel no sympathy for you either. Sorry that's not fair, i'll side with you and say how dare they try and make a difference in the community......

    Most cops I know joined up because they really did want to do their bit, the fact they could be called in for riot control is out of their hands. There's plenty of situations they would rather not be in, but they do'nt get to pick and choose.

    Quote Originally Posted by robertvi View Post
    I think they get attacked in some cases because they are trying to suppress legitimate, peaceful protest with heavy handed tactics (e.g. kettling) - I don't know how much this applies to the Greek case.
    My opinion of police handling of protests has certainly gone down hill in recent years. UK police seem to treat any protesters as a nuisance or worse. If people are not able to protest peacefully, things can easily get out of hand and turn nasty.
    Ahaaaaa. And why do you think it's become that way?! They have to go out in force, with no-nonsense forceful attitudes or they'll lose the inevitable battle. Heavy handed tactics work, they really do'nt have much of a choice these days, if they go in with mittens on they'll all be killed. Most so-called "peaceful protests" become anything but. I ca'nt say i've seen our cops being overzealous at any legitimately peaceful protest here.
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    I stopped caring for the Greek people when they killed those bank workers when they threw petrol bombs into a bank.
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