Dishonest people at the Z gas station, Mt. Wellington

**davereid** · 27th February 2012, 20:04

Originally Posted by avgas

I can only forsee that working if they were wireless.
5w of CB radio does jack shit to something sitting in a metal box.
Now 20 tons of crap rattling itself to bits 2m from the pump electronics is plausable.

Nope.

5 watts will seriously screw up a badly designed microprocessor board no worries at all, even if its in a tin box. There are always wires, displays, power supplies, etc that remove the perceived protection of the box.

Hold your 0.5 watt cellphone near the CRT tube on your computer one day and send a txt.

And the 2kW PEP transmitters ones we had (and every radio ham today still has) could give you a serious electric shock, stop well designed microprocessors, and make neon lights glow.

Ill let you touch the top of the 1/4 wave aerial on my truck one day and let the power of practical demonstration influence you.

**GingerMidget** · 27th February 2012, 20:12

Does anyone still have a CRT monitor these days? Mines a touchscreen AIO, and my last was an LCD

**blackdog** · 27th February 2012, 20:12

Originally Posted by davereid

CRT tube

Which decade are you living in?

**blackdog** · 27th February 2012, 20:13

Originally Posted by GingerMidget

Does anyone still have a CRT monitor these days? Mines a touchscreen AIO, and my last was an LCD

Snap. Are you stalking me?

**GingerMidget** · 27th February 2012, 20:15

Is yours the awesome HP one? Cos if so, I had it first

**avgas** · 27th February 2012, 20:43

Originally Posted by davereid

Nope.

5 watts will seriously screw up a badly designed microprocessor board no worries at all, even if its in a tin box. There are always wires, displays, power supplies, etc that remove the perceived protection of the box.

Hold your 0.5 watt cellphone near the CRT tube on your computer one day and send a txt.

And the 2kW PEP transmitters ones we had (and every radio ham today still has) could give you a serious electric shock, stop well designed microprocessors, and make neon lights glow.

Ill let you touch the top of the 1/4 wave aerial on my truck one day and let the power of practical demonstration influence you.

CRT runs by throwing an electron down a rat race and moving its position with milliwatts of power.
You can create a shock (with 3rd degree burns) with very low amount of power. You can kill yourself with 50mA @ 230V.
If faradays law applies any radio energy that hits a metal box goes around the outside of it. A shock requires either contact or high voltage (from recall 1kv per cm - but don't quote me on that)......so for a truck to shock a pump would probably require a decent alternator.
And there is some dodgey wiring on your truck because I have a 5w Trio repeater station with a 22db dish in my office and I still managed to have kids. I don't do it with the 20w Base - I like not rearranging my organs at a subatomic level.

**p.dath** · 28th February 2012, 06:55

Originally Posted by tigertim20

The pumps will have a certificate of accuracy on them, which says at what time they were tested, and when they are due to be tested again. If you cannot see the sticker, either ask to see where it is, or do not go there.
If the sticker is out of date, dont use the pump, and let them know.

Funny you should say that. I had an accident with a BP station in West Auckland.

The Petrol pump dispensed more petrol than my car's fuel tank could hold. I went to inspect the certificate of accuracy - and it had been scraped off!
I spoke to the manager inside, explained the situation, and asked to see the certificate of accuracy for the pump. He didn't know what a certificate of accuracy was, or where it would be. His reaction was mostly "Duh".

At the time, our company was a BP fuel card customer, so I contacted their support services. I explained the situation, and again requested to see the certificate of accuracy.

I could never get anyone to respond to my claim, or give me the certificate to site. Eventually we closed our account with BP.

**pzkpfw** · 28th February 2012, 08:40

Freakin' hate my local BP. Always seem to wait to pay for my petrol, while someone gets their bloody coffee.

Pop in this morning to stick fuel in the car.

Go in to pay; there's only one person behind the counter; she's at the coffee part, but they sometimes do the petrol thing too, so I go to her.

Just as I do that some guy comes from out back to one of the "normal" counters.

Coffee lady won't let me pay for petrol, and now I have to go wait behind the two people who walked in behind me, who'd got straight to the guy who'd appeared after I went inside.

I know it's a HTFU situation, but it is still bloody annoying.

Sadly the only other local place is a little Shell (soon Z) garge with only two lanes, so you often end up queueing for the pumps anyway.

**BoristheBiter** · 28th February 2012, 17:40

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

Freakin' hate my local BP. Always seem to wait to pay for my petrol, while someone gets their bloody coffee.

Pop in this morning to stick fuel in the car.

Go in to pay; there's only one person behind the counter; she's at the coffee part, but they sometimes do the petrol thing too, so I go to her.

Just as I do that some guy comes from out back to one of the "normal" counters.

Coffee lady won't let me pay for petrol, and now I have to go wait behind the two people who walked in behind me, who'd got straight to the guy who'd appeared after I went inside.

I know it's a HTFU situation, but it is still bloody annoying.

Sadly the only other local place is a little Shell (soon Z) garge with only two lanes, so you often end up queueing for the pumps anyway.

Much better mileage with Z (shell) and at least they are partly NZ owned.

**James Deuce** · 28th February 2012, 17:53

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

Much better mileage with Z (shell) and at least they are partly NZ owned.

Eh? When I spent 3 months comparing each fuel brand, Shell (Z) were by far the worst mileage. How are they partly NZ owned? Creative accounting, nothing more.

**EJK** · 28th February 2012, 18:02

ffffuuuu10charrafa

**Zedder** · 28th February 2012, 18:38

Originally Posted by James Deuce

Eh? When I spent 3 months comparing each fuel brand, Shell (Z) were by far the worst mileage. How are they partly NZ owned? Creative accounting, nothing more.

The New Zealand Superannuation Fund and Infratil bought Shell (Z) off Royal Dutch Shell.

**cs363** · 28th February 2012, 18:44

Originally Posted by James Deuce

Eh? When I spent 3 months comparing each fuel brand, Shell (Z) were by far the worst mileage. How are they partly NZ owned? Creative accounting, nothing more.

Originally Posted by Zedder

The New Zealand Superannuation Fund and Infratil bought Shell (Z) off Royal Dutch Shell.

What he said^^ http://www.infratil.com/content/view/2902/157/