So who's going to do it first?

[scumdog]

Dafe, you need to get a life mate.

When I shoot an animal it's instant lights-out, one minute it's standing there thinking of its next mouthful of grass then BANG, a bullet through the neck or head, drop where they stand, never knew what hit them.

Farmed animals? harrassed and chased into the truck, chased out of the truck, pushed and harrassed up the race, zapped with electric prods (cattle)locked into a clamp, zapped witha gajillion volts then has its throat cut.

Which death do you think is less traumatic??

[Dafe]

Hey Scumdog, I've seen poorly shot aims go pretty horrifically wrong, If every person in the world had your self acclaimed perfect shot, then for sure this wouldn't happen. I was at Taylor Prestons Slaughter House just last week, the bolts they used there are as instant as your bullet will ever get!
They're positioned exactly right to provide an instant death, just like your every aimed shot.
By the way, I have a 300 metre range Military Marksmanship rating, I've fired a shot or two in my time. Your accuracy sounds well above any league I've ever come across.
Also, I'm not gonna suggest you get a life, because I don't know what you do day in day out, but your obviously a better man than me though.

And to answer your question: It wasn't the goat that had a side of its stomach and guts blown out.

[scumdog]

Hey Scumdog, I've seen poorly shot aims go pretty horrifically wrong, If every person in the world had your self acclaimed perfect shot, then for sure this wouldn't happen. I was at Taylor Prestons Slaughter House just last week, the bolts they used there are as instant as your bullet will ever get!
They're positioned exactly right to provide an instant death, just like your every aimed shot.
By the way, I have a 300 metre range Military Marksmanship rating, I've fired a shot or time in my time. Your accuracy sounds well above any league I've ever come across.
Also, I'm not gonna suggest you get a life, because I don't know what you do day in day out. You're obviously a better man than me though.

Not skiting but did 24 years in the freezing works industry, those supposed "humane killers" are not exactly that when a cow moves its head at the last second and gets it through the eye - or a bull with an extra thick skull takes 5 or 6 hits before going down.
Theres more but I hope I've made my point.
BTW most animals I shoot are less than 100 yards away so a miss is pretty rare and can''t recall losing a wounded animal - and it's been a loooong time since I had to use a second shot..

And I'm certainly not in the same league as these two pathetic excuses for a human.

[gamgee]

i like the kiss of the dragon style, fly kick a snooker ball into each of there foreheads!

[Dafe]

No problem mate, I don't call 24 years in a freezing works - Skiting.

I ain't got anything against you at all. Just intrigues me off when people tell me to get a life and they know nothing of me.

[scumdog]

No problem mate, I don't call 24 years in a freezing works - Skiting.

I ain't got anything against you at all. Just intrigues me off when people tell me to get a life and they know nothing of me.

Yeah, sorry mate, probably wrong expression, meant to indicate to you that hunting is not about cruelty (well not for me) and also have had a few run ins with anti-hunting types telling me how evil it was to hunt - while filling their face with KFC and Maccas burgers.

Peace.

[Jay widda 150]

a happy ending was all that was needed. and here ladies and gents we have one

on ya guys but can someone tell me where i can go small bore rifling in welly? any clubs? i could never kill an animal but clay targets better be careful

[Dafe]

Sure, Check out the link: http://www.wcsrc.wellington.net.nz/

I only have an air rifle now, A few cans have been known to get a hammering now and then.

[rfc85]

I did not watch the program but saw the story on the news when they were caught, this are sick people, and I agree with a lot of what has been said here ,but in the end its the justice system that will give them a smack on the hand ie community service or some such bullshit. We need to look at the way "justice" is delivered in this country-fuckem put them on a chain gang in orange overalls for 6 months and see how happy the little fucks are then

[Dafe]

Sounds like a good idea, Only 6 months going 24 months I reackon.

[magnum]

dont tell me those little cunts got away with what they did to that cat?

[Ms Piggy]

And by that I mean who's going to get to those two, words fail me, sub-species on 60 Minutes tonight. Honestly, these guys can not be allowed to walk the streets flaunting it like they do. Yes I realise there are worse crimes out there, but I'm ranting about this as it was just on TV. Somehow, something needs to happen to these two guys, not suggesting anything in particular, I'll leave that up to fate. And blaming it on mushies, bullshit. I've done my share (and a few others shares as well) of mushies and those guys weren't on anything other than the euphoric feeling they get when the only two active brain cells they've got create an 'idea'. Sick, just fucking sick. The Chinese guys are just as bad, very scary regarding the footage at the end of the video, filming young girls on the streets.

Time shit like this was dealt with more seriously.

It was pretty disturbing stuff alright! Bob Kerridge (the head of the SPCA) has been trying to get tougher convictions for these sorts of crimes for years. I had to turn down the volume when they played the security tape. I think the part I found most disturbing was that the boy they interviewed, of having killed the cats, had no remorse.

I did find it interesting that o/s they somethime use animal welfare agencies in association with justice & social service agencies to check out house holds. B/c of course there is a link between people who are cruel to animals and commit violent crime.

[Lou Girardin]

It's significant that Nigel Latta was sickened by what he saw. He's dealt with most of the worst examples of humanity we've produced in NZ in the last few years.
As for Hitchers implication that cruelty to animals is not as bad as it is to humans, the fact is that most serial killers started practicing on animals. There is a direct link between boths types of psycopathic behaviour.
I, for one, would be pleased to see those two sub-humans subject to some vigilante justice. Kneecapping for a start, keep them from moving around. Maybe a swim in the Waikato.

[Drunken Monkey]

...I ain't got anything against you at all. Just intrigues me off when people tell me to get a life and they know nothing of me.

It intrigues you that people make a judgemental statement about you after you make a judgemental statement about people that hunt?
That's intriguing.

[Lias]

Personally I fail to see what the hell the fuss is about.

Should they have killed the cats? No.. But they are only cats.. If it was HUMAN BEING's they'd done it to I could understand all the angst, but it was only a stupid animal.

To my mind what they did is no different from little kids burning ants with a magnifying glasses, or pulling the wings off butterflies..