Marshals urgently required for Hampton Downs round of Nationals

[Madness]

Out of interest, how much do marshalls get paid at Taupo?

I'm doing fuck all on Friday & would rather go & have my fuel costs covered rather than going & forking out a similar amount just for gate entry. I'm expecting to get rather bored but at the same time it may be something I'm happy to do again in the future. I have friends that are racing and I see volunteering as a way of helping them reach their goals.

Wouldn't it be sad if the final round of the N.Z premier road-racing series wasn't able to go ahead at the newest, most flashest track in the country located just outside our biggest city, just because coonts were worried about trivial amounts of money.

[jrandom]

Wouldn't it be sad if the final round of the N.Z premier road-racing series wasn't able to go ahead at the newest, most flashest track in the country located just outside our biggest city, just because the organisers tried to take advantage of racing fans to scrape more profit out of the event?

I know, right?

[Madness]

Profit?

You mean like the huge profit made from RWC 2011?

[jrandom]

Profit?

Are you suggesting that someone's losing money on running the Nats?

Who might that be?

[nzmikey]

We think you're suckers, but if you've got nothing better to do on the day, good on ya. But it's not in the same league as manning the kitchen at the Auckland City Mission.



The racers are doing it for themselves. They want to go fast around a track. It's an expensive sport for thrill-seeking dilettantes. Entry fees for race meets are not a major component of their costs and might as well go up as much as would be required to pay at least minimum wage to the track marshals for their time.

If all you starry-eyed n00bs stopped bending over and taking it so that the thrill-seeking dilettantes could have their fun slightly more cheaply, things would change.

Since this is prob the closest I will get to racing ( in the next 5 or so years ) I put my hand up to help out where I can, It also gives me a chance to see how other riders take certain lines, it also enables me to talk to some of the racers ......... once again it cost me $0 .

I have done it for the V8' Supercars when they were at Pukie . I have done it for the WRC & the APRC all over the north island & now I am helping AMCC out where I can ( once again for free ). If I get something else out of it then bonus it is a win for me .

Yeah dont get me wrong it is so people can go fast in a safe(ish) environment & what they pay to "get in" is some what cheep, but as Gremlin said :

"Racers wouldn't be able to race without marshals, for some us lunch, drinks, and some vouchers are enough to keep the guys racing. If we got paid 10s or 100s (like HDRD/CSS did) then where does the money come from? I hardly think racers would love the idea given that it costs plenty for them to participate. Last Nats I think AMCC made a large loss, so it's hardly like they're rolling in money either.

For me, it's a way of giving back a little... I get a front row seat to the entertainment, and yes, sometimes you have deal with some nasty stuff, but I can handle it no worries."

It also helps people who want to get into racing Learn what the flags are for & why you SHOULD obey them .

But I dont expect you to understand this

[Madness]

I'm sure as fuck that no-one's getting rich out of running it.

[jrandom]

I think it's really cool, so I don't mind turning up for free.

Good onya mate.

[jrandom]

I'm sure as fuck that no-one's getting rich out of running it.

Yes, I expect you are.

[Madness]

Yes, I expect you are correct and I am just being the cock that I am.

Thank you.

[Deano]

I marshal and get paid at some events.

I marshal for nothing at other events other than a free lunch and the enjoyment of seeing others getting their jollies. It's my way of putting something back into the sport that I get a lot of enjoyment from.

And those are my sentiments - not looking for an argument as often happens here.

[MSTRS:Me]

There is every chance that MNZ will, in the next year or so, insist that 'properly trained and certified' marshals be present on every flag point. Next will be they will have to be trained first aiders too. This can only be a good thing, in terms of meetings being staffed with people who know what they are doing.
The downside is that it will become even more difficult to attract sufficient marshals at every meet (it's hard enough now). Once that point is reached, the marshals will have to be paid more. Especially those who travel some distance to do their thing.
The money that marshals are paid now is called 'reimbursement for travel costs' to avoid problems with IRD. But the bloke who lives just over the fence from the track gets the same reimbursement as the bloke who travels 200+kms. And the amount paid is often less than the cost of the gas he used, which is one of the reasons why it is so hard to get enough marshals at meeting after meeting. The good, reliable ones are worth their weight in gold - even if they'll settle for a bit less...

[nzmikey]

And the amount paid is often less than the cost of the gas he used, which is one of the reasons why it is so hard to get enough marshals at meeting after meeting. The good, reliable ones are worth their weight in gold - even if they'll settle for a bit less...

WOW that has upped my NET value if ya dont believe me : http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=94kg+gold+Value

[yungatart]

Out of interest, how much do marshalls get paid at Taupo?

I'm doing fuck all on Friday & would rather go & have my fuel costs covered rather than going & forking out a similar amount just for gate entry. I'm expecting to get rather bored but at the same time it may be something I'm happy to do again in the future. I have friends that are racing and I see volunteering as a way of helping them reach their goals.

Wouldn't it be sad if the final round of the N.Z premier road-racing series wasn't able to go ahead at the newest, most flashest track in the country located just outside our biggest city, just because coonts were worried about trivial amounts of money.

Well, it won't happen because the final round is happening at Taupo, not HD.
Coonts moaning about trivial amounts of money?...30 bucks is fine if you have plenty of dosh to spare. Not everyone does. And it would nowhere near cover the costs of my gas.

[Deano]

I'm expecting to get rather bored

I'll try and make it exciting for you mate. Hopefully in a good way !

[Madness]

I'll try and make it exciting for you mate. Hopefully in a good way !

Any pointers on which corners are the ones to go for. I hear turn one has had a few "incidents"

Well, it won't happen because the final round is happening at Taupo, not HD.

Oops - my bad

Coonts moaning about trivial amounts of money?...30 bucks is fine if you have plenty of dosh to spare. Not everyone does. And it would nowhere near cover the costs of my gas.

$30 will however cover the costs of my gas (only just on the Kawasaki) and TBH, I wouldn't be going otherwise in all likelyhood. I don't have plenty of dosh to spare either.
This thread's getting a lot of bumps for all the wrong reasons, sorry.