Regulator/Rectifiers. Bring your knowledge

[ducatilover]

cheers man, that is some solid advice. I am very wiring phobic, I'm colorblind and have a better chance of reading chinese than following a wiring diagram.. so kind of planning to just buy a straight replacement part and plug it in aye.
I will check with a bike shop in town (there is no Honda dealers in dunedin at all) and see if they can get me that part and the cost. I go a quote from them yesterday for some finned replacement but it was 270 bucks..

bikebusters on trademe have got a used reg/rec from a wrecked blade same as mine for 80 bucks which is what I was planning to get and fit for now..

finally when testing the stator, should this be done with a new/working reg rec connected, with no reg/rec connected at all, or still with the failed reg/rec connected (cant imagine this is a good idea)

Cheers

No reg/rec. You measure it at the plug going to the stator.

[Fast Eddie]

No reg/rec. You measure it at the plug going to the stator.

chur.. now just to find that plug....

cheers for the help

[Fast Eddie]

seemed to test out OK according to spanner spinners figures. got 0.7 ohm across 3 yellow wires over three readings. and with bike running with choke on (its cold in dunners) at high idle got about 20v a/c and bumped it up to about 4,000 and I was getting near 60v a/c I think.. did about 5 mins ago and cant even remember haha shocker. but I remember they matched up with spanner spinners figures or pretty close anyway..

however a bit of black around the plug.. terminals and wiring all looks good (the insulation anyway)

honda manual recons should have no more then .3 ohm resistance on stator.. so wondering about that. Also wondering if I knew the right ohm setting to have multimeter on.. mmmm

[neels]

seemed to test out OK according to spanner spinners figures. got 0.7 ohm across 3 yellow wires over three readings. and with bike running with choke on (its cold in dunners) at high idle got about 20v a/c and bumped it up to about 4,000 and I was getting near 60v a/c I think.. did about 5 mins ago and cant even remember haha shocker. but I remember they matched up with spanner spinners figures or pretty close anyway..

however a bit of black around the plug.. terminals and wiring all looks good (the insulation anyway)

honda manual recons should have no more then .3 ohm resistance on stator.. so wondering about that. Also wondering if I knew the right ohm setting to have multimeter on.. mmmm

As long as there are no shorts to ground you should be right, and all 3 measure the same, the difference between 0.3 and 0.7 is probably in your meter leads.

Rec/regs do fry up for no apparent reason, basically the bits inside get hot one too many times and give up. Some heat sink compound between the regulator and where it bolts on might help to keep the new one alive a bit longer, I've also seen mods posted on the internet where people have moved them to somewhere with more airflow, or even installed 12V computer fans to keep them cool.

[Fast Eddie]

As long as there are no shorts to ground you should be right, and all 3 measure the same, the difference between 0.3 and 0.7 is probably in your meter leads.

Rec/regs do fry up for no apparent reason, basically the bits inside get hot one too many times and give up. Some heat sink compound between the regulator and where it bolts on might help to keep the new one alive a bit longer, I've also seen mods posted on the internet where people have moved them to somewhere with more airflow, or even installed 12V computer fans to keep them cool.

haha, yea I saw the computer fan idea too.. not too bad, might give it a go. The reg is mounted on the tail on the blade two bolts onto a metal plate so yea, maybe a bit of thermal past from the reg/rec to the metal plate will dissipate some more heat.

bought a used one :S off trademe.. probably should have not been so tight and got a new one. oh well, see how it goes. student budget n' all

[ducatilover]

haha, yea I saw the computer fan idea too.. not too bad, might give it a go. The reg is mounted on the tail on the blade two bolts onto a metal plate so yea, maybe a bit of thermal past from the reg/rec to the metal plate will dissipate some more heat.

bought a used one :S off trademe.. probably should have not been so tight and got a new one. oh well, see how it goes. student budget n' all

Mount it up the front under the headlight?

[Fast Eddie]

Mount it up the front under the headlight?

sounds like effort haha, nah she'll be right in the original mount. it has 2 vents in the fairing and is already mounted fairly far away from heat sources, why its on the exhaust muffler side and not the otherside is odd but hey.

I'll plug a new (second hand off a wrecked blade) one in and hope it doesnt give me any hassles for a while, until I get the aprilia running anyway. blade needs a bit of service time too before the winter duty and as spanner spinner and online says there are a few better regs u can chuck on with a bit of re-wiring that should be trouble free..

[Kickaha]

I'm colorblind

Well that explains the colour scheme on the Fireblade

[Fast Eddie]

Well that explains the colour scheme on the Fireblade

haha! colorblind as a dog - stuff it, I like yellow and black (was planning to paint the aprilia in a similar fashion)

fuckn hondas tho.. found some melted wires today..

honda is gay - i seem to be attached to it tho, still don't wanna sell it.. but its been a pain in the ass the last year or more

[Kickaha]

honda is gay - i seem to be attached to it tho, still don't wanna sell it.. but its been a pain in the ass the last year or more

I would have thought gay and pain in the arse would go together, try some lube next time

[Fast Eddie]

ha!, your on form today..

[bsasuper]

What people need to do is replace the old diode R/R, with a mosfet R/R, no more problems.

[Fast Eddie]

What people need to do is replace the old diode R/R, with a mosfet R/R, no more problems.

i shall google the differences..

[bsasuper]

Diode R/R run quite hot, and when they fail they usually fry the battery and can damage wiring.Mosfet R/R run a lot cooler, and if it ever fails, it will simply stop voltage to the battery.

[Fast Eddie]

Diode R/R run quite hot, and when they fail they usually fry the battery and can damage wiring.Mosfet R/R run a lot cooler, and if it ever fails, it will simply stop voltage to the battery.

sounds ideal/too good to be true haha - why are mosfet reg/recs not fitted from the start. I'll see if I can get my hands on one, a quick search on ebay has returned a kit by Shindengen? sounds chinese.. anyway.

again back to being rather wiring phobic it looks like a bit or re-wiring and modification is needed to fit one.