Just bought my first bike, anybody regularly riding over Port Hills? (Mushu)

[Mushu]

Hey fella.
if you are interested, I am going to the sundowner rally sat,
via cheviot, then the leader road to waiau, then back to the huranui camp site.
I ride the little 250 cruiser you met on the wed night ride to little river .
I dont go much over 110kph, because basically I cant lol.
So I will not lead you into anything at sub sonic speeds
but you are welcome to tag along with me.
If you have not done the leader road before, its a good one to practice corners on , and hill work.
Oh I been riding for a little while.........

Hi,

I would have come to the rally, wanted to go up there tonight actually, unfortunatly I have heaps of crap I have to do on Saturday (all the stuff I have been putting off so I can ride for the last month since I got the bike)

Actually last weekend I rode to Kaikora on Saturday but I followed the signs and took the inland road, might be worth the ride to check out the Leader rd

Incedently I had an interesting experience on that ride, started out heading to Kiapoi at about 4pm once I got to Culverden I had lunch and felt good so I decided to head on to Kaikora.

It got dark while I stopped under the bridge in the photo to stretch my legs. The end of inland road is a series of straights with small, easy bends in between and goes for kays and kays, I was doing between 120 and 130 the whole way, reeling in a car whos taillights started appearing at the far end of each straight.

After about 15 minutes straight slowly getting closer to this car (by this time its completly dark) I finally notice this is a marked police car (he was obviously speeding too, still about 150m away - gotta love those reflective stickers) and chop the throttle till I'm doing about 90 but the cop must have been watching my speed because he immediatly dropped to a bit under the speed I was doing and for the next about 2 kays he was slowing down maintaining a slower speed than me to force me to close the gap untill he was doing about 60 on a straight piece of open rd and we were the only 2 cars on that rd (I wasn't going to overtake him, I thought he was trying to get behind me to pull me over. I was also worried about him noticing I was on a 250 and pulling me over for no L plates)

Then, all of a sudden, he pulls over at the entrance to the tightest corner I had seen in atleast 20km - I figured he was letting me past to pull me over. I slowly rode past him, through the corner, back up to 100km/h and checked for disco lights in the mirror. I didn't even see his car, so, one more corner and I opened it up as fast as I could (road got twisty again at that point)

I don't understand it, judging by the way he adjusted his speed so quickly when I backed off, he had to have known how fast I was going so why wasn't I booked for speeding (on easter) and if he didn't pull over at the end to let me past to pull me over, why else would a cop pull over at the very end of a huge series of straights in the middle of nowhere.

He had to be doing a u-turn patrolling an area that would certainly profitable in the way of speeding fines (long straights, mild corners and far enough from the main route that you would feel safe from the police, also I stopped again for 15 minutes further up the road and he didn't show)

So if he was patrolling the area why wouldn't he have booked me?

He could have been looking for something or someone - but even so, I would expect the driver took note that there was a vehicle behind with one headlight (I always notice anything with one headlight - Because if its a car with a headlight out, I need to know which one to figure out where exactly the car is) and it would only take 1 more look to realise I was going faster than him (who as I said, was almost definatly speeding himself)

There is always the theory that he had already reached his quota and decided to just drive around and relax for a while

[Transalper]

....I have been having trouble with the transition from engine braking to acceleration during a corner....

You are not supposed to be transitioning from engine braking to acceleration during a corner, you are supposed to have already sorted your deceleration and be back to positive throttle for the turn in.
The whole post sounds like you are at at the edge of over cooking it, I'd back off a bit if I were you, I think you're probably trying too hard.

Definately get in on an advance riding course while they are cheep, only $50 most of them right now.

[FJRider]

I don't understand it, judging by the way he adjusted his speed so quickly when I backed off, he had to have known how fast I was going so why wasn't I booked for speeding (on easter) and if he didn't pull over at the end to let me past to pull me over, why else would a cop pull over at the very end of a huge series of straights in the middle of nowhere.

He had to be doing a u-turn patrolling an area that would certainly profitable in the way of speeding fines (long straights, mild corners and far enough from the main route that you would feel safe from the police, also I stopped again for 15 minutes further up the road and he didn't show)

So if he was patrolling the area why wouldn't he have booked me?

He could have been looking for something or someone - but even so, I would expect the driver took note that there was a vehicle behind with one headlight (I always notice anything with one headlight - Because if its a car with a headlight out, I need to know which one to figure out where exactly the car is) and it would only take 1 more look to realise I was going faster than him (who as I said, was almost definatly speeding himself)

There is always the theory that he had already reached his quota and decided to just drive around and relax for a while

If he was looking for an address (a Rapid number) it would explain why he slowed, and the disappeared. At that time of day ... unlikely to be on patrol. His speed and actions, would be consistant with being on a mission of his own. YOU would be the least of his worries. He might even have been going home for tea.

Don't be so paranoid ... but you can find a Police car on many back roads ... at all times of the day and night. Not initially on a road patrol ... but on some of the "non urgent" missions they do ... the "Hawk" is flying ... (I have found this out ... to my cost )

[Fast Eddie]

ever seen super troopers?

maybe he was just trying to f%ck with you haha

[Fast Eddie]

starting right meow..

[jimichelle]

quote ::I was never here for the powerful machines - you'd probly never see me on a H-D, I like to go around corners - lots of them. Fast.
what a stupid comment
come back after riding a few years, a few different type of bikes

[ducatilover]

Yeah man, open it up, coz a HW Patrol Commy will have trouble catching an EX250

[haydes55]

quote ::I was never here for the powerful machines - you'd probly never see me on a H-D, I like to go around corners - lots of them. Fast.
what a stupid comment
come back after riding a few years, a few different type of bikes

Umadbro? Harleys are long, low and wide (can't lean over as far) and heavy. Common sense says they wont corner aswell as a bike designed for roads with 200km of straight roads.
(I feel like there needs to be one of those twitter thingys that say #HarleyHaters)

[ducatilover]

Umadbro? Harleys are long, low and wide (can't lean over as far) and heavy. Common sense says they wont corner aswell as a bike designed for roads with 200km of straight roads.
(I feel like there needs to be one of those twitter thingys that say #HarleyHaters)

Now you'll start that fucking stupid "Yeah, but, like, but, Harleys can corner as good as sport bikes when they have a good rider on them and the sport bike is going slow enough for the Harley to keep up, like,but"

I could out corner anything in a fucking fridge if it was ridden slow enough.


Feck, arse, drink!

Rant over.

[haydes55]

Now you'll start that fucking stupid "Yeah, but, like, but, Harleys can corner as good as sport bikes when they have a good rider on them and the sport bike is going slow enough for the Harley to keep up, like,but"

I could out corner anything in a fucking fridge if it was ridden slow enough.


Feck, arse, drink!

Rant over.

I can win a drag race against a harley when it's ridden slow enough (Yeah suck on that Harley rider I met at the lights on Te Rapa straight!)

I can see the appeal to riding a Harley though, when I get old and lazy I'll probably get one to roll around on.

[ducatilover]

I can see the appeal to riding a Harley though, when I get old and lazy I'll probably get one to roll around on.

You'll vibrate right off.

I'll buy a proper cruiser one day, V-4 Honda probably.

[haydes55]

You'll vibrate right off.

I'll buy a proper cruiser one day, V-4 Honda probably.

Are you a nice enough person to ride a Honda though?

[ducatilover]

Are you a nice enough person to ride a Honda though?

I've had three, suck my di....um. Never mind.

[Mushu]

quote ::I was never here for the powerful machines - you'd probly never see me on a H-D, I like to go around corners - lots of them. Fast.
what a stupid comment
come back after riding a few years, a few different type of bikes

Thanks for your input, real helpful...

FYI, the comment was based on my preference in cars, ie. I would never want a V8 and currently own 2 20valve toyotas.
Perhaps I should elaborate, I get very little enjoyment from acceleration on its own, but I love the sensation of completing a series of corners when you get everything right and that usually results in high speeds

I'm not sum squid out there that thinks I'm Rossi, I'm quite careful around the cages but I do open it up a little more when I'm alone on the road. Every single one of us is willing to accept some risk (if you ride, this is you too) so we can ride our bikes. If we weren't prepared to accept that risk, we would be driving volvos, or catching the bus.

Or were you just upset I said I would never ride a H-D, don't misunderstand and think I don't like Harleys, they are impressive in pretty much every way definatly look and sound better than pretty much anything from japan or italy but as I said before I love corners and the way it goes is far more important for me (case in piont. One of the 2 toyotas I mention above is attached to this post. Not exactly pretty but it corners as good as anything else)

You are not supposed to be transitioning from engine braking to acceleration during a corner, you are supposed to have already sorted your deceleration and be back to positive throttle for the turn in.
The whole post sounds like you are at at the edge of over cooking it, I'd back off a bit if I were you, I think you're probably trying too hard.

I know you're supposed to be on the accelerator before you enter the corner. What I was commenting on is that the transition is not as smooth as I would like and in situations like compound corners or negotiating traffic (damn cyclists) if I do end up in a no throttle situation during a corner I would like the ability to open it up without upsetting the bike, and I'd like to have better control over that transition in general.

If he was looking for an address (a Rapid number) it would explain why he slowed, and the disappeared. At that time of day ... unlikely to be on patrol. His speed and actions, would be consistant with being on a mission of his own. YOU would be the least of his worries. He might even have been going home for tea.

Don't be so paranoid ... but you can find a Police car on many back roads ... at all times of the day and night. Not initially on a road patrol ... but on some of the "non urgent" missions they do ... the "Hawk" is flying ... (I have found this out ... to my cost )

Don't think he was looking for an address out there (there couldn't be more than a couple houses on that entire road) It seems like a pretty obvious place to cruise around and hand out massive fines during the easter break.
But who knows, maybe he was looking for something, maybe he was out doing the same thing as me (Just riding around for the ride - I went to kaikora for a service station coffee and then came straight back to Christchurch)

I like Fast Eddies take on it, it would be nice to know there are some cops out there that have a sense of humor for things like that. (I'm not really anymore dangerous to others at 120 than I am at 100 on straight road with no other traffic so don't really deserve a fine, I think)

[ducatilover]

Thanks for your input, real helpful...

FYI, the comment was based on my preference in cars, ie. I would never want a V8 and currently own 2 20valve toyotas.
Perhaps I should elaborate, I get very little enjoyment from acceleration on its own, but I love the sensation of completing a series of corners when you get everything right and that usually results in high speeds

I'm not sum squid out there that thinks I'm Rossi, I'm quite careful around the cages but I do open it up a little more when I'm alone on the road. Every single one of us is willing to accept some risk (if you ride, this is you too) so we can ride our bikes. If we weren't prepared to accept that risk, we would be driving volvos, or catching the bus.

I'm assuming you have an AE101/111 or two then? They...don't handle.
Mind you, fun can be had in 'em (I had fun in an AE111 BZ-R once)

No need to prove yourself on the webbernet bro, we'll just troll you because we're jealous pricks who secretly have no bikes (shh, don't let on though)