A haka for teacher and pupil?

**mashman** · 5th March 2012, 08:39

Did anyone see the Andre Agassi School on the Sunday programme? Brilliant. A school that recites a "motto" to "galvanise" the kids together, like the cubs/scouts/girl guides/brownies etc... The adults/teachers talk to the kids like they were human beings and not pieces of shit (I'm sure they do here too

). This is setup in the worst are of Vegas supposedly. They have a 100% rate of kids graduating and gaining a place at college.

They can then go home and teach the parents who never had that upbringing

.

As for the "motto", praps NZ could have a Teacher Haka and a kid Haka? That'd sound awesome belting out from schools around the country, Teachers saying, we'll teach you, please don't fuck around or I'll slice yer throat. And kids saying, we'll learn, be good Teachers and let me be me. Simple ground rules for the battle that is to commence

. Teachers and kids deserve better! (I also like the sounds of the pipes in the hills on sunday mornings, church bells (in the distance) and little tweedy birds and the sound of the V-Twins and the kid still being fast asleep etc...

If it is possible, why has it not been done? Surely every child in the country deserves a grade A education?

Wont somebody think about the children

**Red39** · 5th March 2012, 10:10

I believe the children are our future....teach them well and let them lead the way

Have you been hitting the Glenmorangie early this morning Mashman? Or is it the sleep deprivation - pipes in the distant hills, birds singing.....

**mashman** · 5th March 2012, 10:19

Originally Posted by Red39

I believe the children are our future....teach them well and let them lead the way

Have you been hitting the Glenmorangie early this morning Mashman? Or is it the sleep deprivation - pipes in the distant hills, birds singing.....

... "Show them all the beauty they possess inside Give them a sense of pride to make it easier".

Probably getting out yesterday did it... fresh air, back roads, the company of people etc... rounded off with a great day with the kids.

I've actually got man flu. Kids have had it and they're so sweet, they shared it with me

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It's just odd that it takes a famous tennis player to build top notch facilities in "deprived" areas, where we pay a govt to do it for us. That's not a case of let's privatise it either, it's a case of putting the money up front instead of later on. I realise that there are plenty of gotchas associated with that too, other than highly educated kids that is.

**Oscar** · 5th March 2012, 10:22

The NZ educational system is ranked 7th in the world in terms of achievement by 15 year olds in Reading, Maths & Science:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...cience-reading

On the basis of his rantings above it appears that Mashmug was educated in Kyrgyztan.

**mashman** · 5th March 2012, 10:27

Originally Posted by Oscar

The NZ educational system is ranked 7th in the world in terms of achievement by 15 year olds in Reading, Maths & Science:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...cience-reading

On the basis of his rantings above it appears that Mashmug was educated in Kyrgyztan.

... and the Agassi school has a 100% success rate with kids going ending up in College (what about NZ?). The best we can do is train up some post-grads for 6 weeks and then throw them into teaching in a low decile area. You're only 7th! Fuckin pathetic given you have 4.5 million people on the island.

I should be so lucky.

**Red39** · 5th March 2012, 10:28

Originally Posted by mashman

Probably getting out yesterday did it... fresh air, back roads, the company of people etc...

It's just odd that it takes a famous tennis player to build top notch facilities in "deprived" areas, where we pay a govt to do it for us. That's not a case of let's privatise it either, it's a case of putting the money up front instead of later on. I realise that there are plenty of gotchas associated with that too, other than highly educated kids that is.

Fresh air and back roads will do that to ya.....too much time to think

Ummm, perhaps we should ask a high profile sportsman to build a top notch facility in good old NZ. Not naming any names but PIRI WEEPU must be coining it in with the Coke commercials.

Sure he'd spring for it!

**mashman** · 5th March 2012, 10:30

Originally Posted by Red39

Fresh air and back roads will do that to ya.....too much time to think

Ummm, perhaps we should ask a high profile sportsman to build a top notch facility in good old NZ. Not naming any names but PIRI WEEPU must be coining it in with the Coke commercials.

Sure he'd spring for it!

heh, it was a treat.

Maybe... but what about the rest of the country's kids?

**mashman** · 5th March 2012, 10:37

Originally Posted by Red39

I believe the children are our future....teach them well and let them lead the way

Oddly enough... on the same programme they had Lucy Lawless... she reckons Mothers are the future

**Red39** · 5th March 2012, 10:48

Originally Posted by mashman

Oddly enough... on the same programme they had Lucy Lawless... she reckons Mothers are the future

In what respect? She's a feckin numpty anyway.....much more appealing whooping it up with a leather skirt on and sword in her hand or plugging some other woman's fundamental a la Rome than spouting political shite on TV

**Oscar** · 5th March 2012, 10:55

Originally Posted by mashman

... and the Agassi school has a 100% success rate with kids going ending up in College (what about NZ?). The best we can do is train up some post-grads for 6 weeks and then throw them into teaching in a low decile area. You're only 7th! Fuckin pathetic given you have 4.5 million people on the island.

I should be so lucky.

???
The Aggassi school is in the US, which is ranked 17th in the world.
NZ is 7th, miles above the OECD average.

Rejoice in the fact that the country is doing summat right for a change.

**mashman** · 5th March 2012, 11:07

Originally Posted by Red39

In what respect? She's a feckin numpty anyway.....much more appealing whooping it up with a leather skirt on and sword in her hand or plugging some other woman's fundamental a la Rome than spouting political shite on TV

She talked about more than the Greenpeace thing. Not just a pretty face I'd bet. Just a woman whose job it was to whoop whoop around to make some money. She has other concerns it would seem. But that was just my take

Originally Posted by Oscar

???
The Aggassi school is in the US, which is ranked 17th in the world.
NZ is 7th, miles above the OECD average.

Rejoice in the fact that the country is doing summat right for a change.

He's shown you the model that works in the areas that you have concerns about. If you had to setup a business, you would comprise young people with that attitude. I see no reason why all schools can't be like that. A school of teaching is more than four walls filled with little robots.

100% and the school is only 17th. T'would seem that it should be ranked, at minimum, joint 1st. Meh, what would I know in regards to how they go about making their "judgements".

**avgas** · 5th March 2012, 11:21

Originally Posted by mashman

... and the Agassi school has a 100% success rate with kids going ending up in College (what about NZ?). The best we can do is train up some post-grads for 6 weeks and then throw them into teaching in a low decile area. You're only 7th! Fuckin pathetic given you have 4.5 million people on the island.

I should be so lucky.

No offense but what is the point?

I have a Bachelors in Engineering, a Masters in Business Administration, various other minor qualifications because I was brought up that 'College' is the way to the top by my father (who lived on the end of a shovel).

A hi-ab driver or some retard who never went to school but spent the last 20 years stacking supermarket shelves gets paid more than me.
Even half our politicians don't have respectable qualifications to run a business let alone a country.

NZ is ready to accept that University qualifications are just that - Qualifications. Its still holding onto the mantra of bricks and mortar make you a good employee.......paper is weak and useless here.

Even the army thinks its ok to call an unqualified fool an engineer -> http://farrst.blogspot.co.nz/2011/04...rubbished.html

Creating more graduates in NZ will simply make more people who can't get a job because the morons at the top didn't have a qualification. Until those old farts die and are eventually replaced by someone who knows how to read......nothing is to change.

**mashman** · 5th March 2012, 13:51

Originally Posted by avgas

No offense but what is the point?

I have a Bachelors in Engineering, a Masters in Business Administration, various other minor qualifications because I was brought up that 'College' is the way to the top by my father (who lived on the end of a shovel).

A hi-ab driver or some retard who never went to school but spent the last 20 years stacking supermarket shelves gets paid more than me.
Even half our politicians don't have respectable qualifications to run a business let alone a country.

NZ is ready to accept that University qualifications are just that - Qualifications. Its still holding onto the mantra of bricks and mortar make you a good employee.......paper is weak and useless here.

Even the army thinks its ok to call an unqualified fool an engineer -> http://farrst.blogspot.co.nz/2011/04...rubbished.html

Creating more graduates in NZ will simply make more people who can't get a job because the morons at the top didn't have a qualification. Until those old farts die and are eventually replaced by someone who knows how to read......nothing is to change.

Lollies, no offense taken.

The education system needs to be changed and quite heavily. Focussing on the student instead of the qualification. A respect that's hard to convey on tinternetz. Teachers are there to teach, they are there to learn. We work 8 whores a day, they do 6 hours. How we're treated there seems to be quite important as to how we learn.

As for qualifications v's experience v's reparation... pah, those days are long gone as they're no guarantee of anything.

Your soldier is probably out there because the office carer guys are dickheads.

**pete376403** · 5th March 2012, 19:50

Originally Posted by mashman

She talked about more than the Greenpeace thing. Not just a pretty face I'd bet. Just a woman whose job it was to whoop whoop around to make some money. She has other concerns it would seem. But that was just my take

He's shown you the model that works in the areas that you have concerns about. If you had to setup a business, you would comprise young people with that attitude. I see no reason why all schools can't be like that. A school of teaching is more than four walls filled with little robots.

100% and the school is only 17th. T'would seem that it should be ranked, at minimum, joint 1st. Meh, what would I know in regards to how they go about making their "judgements".

I think you misread that - the US is ranked 17th, not Agassis school.
Did you note that the kids do an extra two hours per day, every school day, which has the effect of giving them an extra 4 years education.

**pete376403** · 5th March 2012, 19:52

Originally Posted by mashman

Lollies, no offense taken.

The education system needs to be changed and quite heavily. Focussing on the student instead of the qualification. A respect that's hard to convey on tinternetz. Teachers are there to teach, they are there to learn. We work 8 whores a day, they do 6 hours. How we're treated there seems to be quite important as to how we learn. .

You get 8 whores a day? Looks like you're treated quite well.