Dual-purpose eligible for "Prolite"?

[merv]

What is the interpretation of "street type" by those that wrote the rules.

In my view the WR is an enduro bike and it is more dirt than street but does that rule it out of "street type" It isn't a moto-x bike - the YZ does that job. I happily ride my WR on the road as it was fully road legal when I bought it and it still is. I'd sooner it had a 6 speed gearbox if it went anywhere near a road race track though.

All the same I couldn't imagine it being that competitive against a good 250 twin road bike on a road race track.

[kiwifruit]

Are you blind or just plain stupid

I'm not sure how to respond to that, Mr Shirriffs. I guess that makes me stupid

[Billy]

Got a positive and prompt reply from the roadrace commissioner. I'll paste that here if that's ok with him?

Yip,Thats fine by me,I just don't want to set a precedent whereby people will think I'm going to answer every question asked on kiwibiker,There is a protocol to follow and now you know what it is I don't expect you will use any other channels

[kiwifruit]

Yip,Thats fine by me,I just don't want to set a precedent whereby people will think I'm going to answer every question asked on kiwibiker,There is a protocol to follow and now you know what it is I don't expect you will use any other channels

Thanks Billy.

Hi Allan,

Yip saw your thread on kiwibiker,Very valid question,Its probably not what was intended when Paul Stewart and a number of us other self confessed experts intended when formulating the original rules for the class,In fact its a classic case of Peter Ramage shooting himself in the foot whilst trying to open the class up for the Daelims etc,Of course you'd have to convince Yamaha NZ to apply for homologation first and then theres no guarantee the board would ratify it even if by some miracle I managed to get it past the rest of the commission,Then I think you'd struggle to get decent tyres as youve already alluded to and another area Ive found to be a problem converting dirt based machines to roadracing is you generally cant get even close with the external gearing with out changing the rearwheel.

Thanks for bringing your enquiry to the correct channels and let me know if you want me to take it further with the commission,I am holding a face to face with the whole commission at Hampton Downs this weekend,So the timing will be perfect.

Kind regards
Graeme Billington
Roadrace commissioner
Motorcycling NZ

[lostinflyz]

Thanks Billy.

Hi Allan,

Yip saw your thread on kiwibiker,Very valid question,Its probably not what was intended when Paul Stewart and a number of us other self confessed experts intended when formulating the original rules for the class,In fact its a classic case of Peter Ramage shooting himself in the foot whilst trying to open the class up for the Daelims etc,Of course you'd have to convince Yamaha NZ to apply for homologation first and then theres no guarantee the board would ratify it even if by some miracle I managed to get it past the rest of the commission,Then I think you'd struggle to get decent tyres as youve already alluded to and another area Ive found to be a problem converting dirt based machines to roadracing is you generally cant get even close with the external gearing with out changing the rearwheel.

Thanks for bringing your enquiry to the correct channels and let me know if you want me to take it further with the commission,I am holding a face to face with the whole commission at Hampton Downs this weekend,So the timing will be perfect.

Kind regards
Graeme Billington
Roadrace commissioner
Motorcycling NZ

sprockets and brake discs for dirt bikes are easy. it just requires, a creative imagination, a few hours work (jt sprockets website ect) and a file..... ok so itll eat chain sliders in a day but there plastic and cheap...........hahaha

i had a dabble at doing something similar with the SXV for protwin, but again the homologation side was an issue unfortunately....

[gixerracer]

I'm not sure how to respond to that, Mr Shirriffs. I guess that makes me stupid

Hahahaha most people would just abuse me which is kind of what I expected

[budda]

Thanks Billy.

[I]Hi Allan,

Yip saw your thread on kiwibiker,Very valid question,Its probably not what was intended when Paul Stewart and a number of us other self confessed experts intended when formulating the original rules for the class,In fact its a classic case of Peter Ramage shooting himself in the foot whilst trying to open the class up for the Daelims etc .

........ And the Megelli's, and the Honda's, and the rumoured other Big 4 250 single ....... the Class is and always has been for stock standard "250" four stroke roadbikes, imported by mainstream Distributors for everyday use ........ nice spot of lateral thinking though !

There IS a list of Homologated bikes on the MNZ website, nothing hidden ...... get yourself a bike off the list, and come play

[SWERVE]

It is a shame that there isnt eligible & competitive 250s from a wide range of makers. That would be awesome both for riders and manufactuers.
Think to make a WR 250 fit the bill...is a little "out there"
Thought there was some ruling about max bar width (and as changing hieght/position is not allowed)
Agree finding decent skinny race tyres that comply to recommended fitment might be hard.
Be about as aerodynamic as a brick (as not allowed to add fairing/streamlining)
Would run out off puff on std gearing.... gear it for speed and sacrifice low end pull.
front suspension might need more than a fluid/volume change too
Good onya if you can swing it within the rules........

On a positive note.......... wouldnt suffer ground clearence probs with sidestand bracket.............. sorry had to add that one

[Yow Ling]

There IS a list of Homologated bikes on the MNZ website, nothing hidden ...... get yourself a bike off the list, and come play

While it might not be hidden, I looked for ages and couldnt find it

[Ender EnZed]

Usually it's something to do with the handlebars I think. Clip on's are road bikes, flat bars across the top are tards.

Thought there was some ruling about max bar width (and as changing hieght/position is not allowed)

If someone had a Ninja with flat MX bars would there be any class it was eligible for?

[Billy]

While it might not be hidden, I looked for ages and couldnt find it

Go to the homepage/sportsnews scroll down to roadracing and click on that then scroll down and there it is

[SWERVE]

If someone had a Ninja with flat MX bars would there be any class it was eligible for?

Providing the bars conformed to max bar width it would be eligible for F3...........

[budda]

been a question I've been struggling to answer for years ..... why IS it that the only bikes people say they want to race are one of the very few that arent directly catered for under the current Class structure ?

There IS a Class that the WR fits neatly into ...... its just not in real racing. Contact your local Jumping Bike Club

[budda]

Providing the bars conformed to max bar width it would be eligible for F3...........

So if you fitted a cross-brace to the standard bars on a DL650, does that make it an MX bike or a Motard ?

[CHOPPA]

Im starting to understand how important it is to not restrict modifications to much. proddy racing causes way to many arguments and without mods there is not really parity between brands.