Feedback from round 4 NZSBK

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Hi all,

I'm looking for some feedback on how the event went from the racers perspective.

Please note I'm fully aware of the 'noise issue' and that cant be fixed here but I'm keen to see how you saw the rest of the event.

It will help in our de-brief and planning next year.

Cheers

KG

[gonzo_akl]

I added a comment to your earlier thread reminding that it was on.

Overall I thought it was a great day out with some great rcing.

Hope it worked out for you and the organisers.

cheers

[codgyoleracer]

Hi all,

I'm looking for some feedback on how the event went from the racers perspective.

Please note I'm fully aware of the 'noise issue' and that cant be fixed here but I'm keen to see how you saw the rest of the event.

It will help in our de-brief and planning next year.

Cheers

KG

Hi Graham
Personally I'll give you guys an 8 out of 10 :-), overall an excellent event and considering the pressures you guys were all under and the stresses of competition that riders and teams were under - it went pretty good.
My sympathy goes out to the club when i hear the cost of track hire at that particular venue - but good on you for having a crack at some alternative marketing ideas and at-track entertainment.
Only comment would be that it would be nice to hit the times for kick off on each day, but i fully understand that there is a lot being done behind the scenes whilst to us riders it seems that we are standing around with our hands in our pockets :-)

Best of luck for next year

GW

[CHOPPA]

I agree with GWs comments. It was certainly a big step forward and the officials made good solid decisions, specially with the wet race time frame for the Supers. I heard great reaction from the public and have the stunt bike there kept things interesting. Oil clean up has improved 10x

Good event and I hope it worked for you

[malcy25]

Graham

Was going to drop you a note to say awesome weekend from my perspective, can't think of much yet, but will think about it and catch you face to face at the club etc soon.

PA possibly the only thing so far, but that was a known before hand and not in the club's control.

[Biggles08]

PA possibly the only thing so far, but that was a known before hand and not in the club's control.

You mean it was too loud?! We did a legit sound check (with a proper Db reader)at our pits and it was reading 97Db....over the allowed 95Db level that the rules dictate....and I'm not kidding you! lol

Gaz mate that was a great effort by YOU and your team of organizers/doers! Very well done on a great day with fresh approaches! From my point of view it was definitely a massive improvement on every other AMCC event I have been too and everyone involved should feel happy that the best was achieved under the given budget and circumstances that unfolded.

One negative comment (which has nothing to do with the organization of the day) is once again I felt like I was at kindergarten at riders briefing as we were talked down to rather than as adults..when this "us" and "them" attitude is dropped AT THE START OF THE DAY then the racing environment will be a much more enjoyable place to be.

Once again well done it was an awesome day!

[malcy25]

You mean it was too loud?! We did a legit sound check (with a proper Db reader)at our pits and it was reading 97Db....over the allowed 95Db level that the rules dictate....and I'm not kidding you! lol

Yeah, couldn't hear it over a Kwaka....

Seriously though, where did you measure that, cos we struggled all Sat, though Sunday was a little easier.

One negative comment (which has nothing to do with the organization of the day) is once again I felt like I was at kindergarten at riders briefing as we were talked down to rather than as adults..when this "us" and "them" attitude is dropped AT THE START OF THE DAY then the racing environment will be a much more enjoyable place to be.

Biggles, personal opinion I guess. I thought Costello's approach was fine in the context of not having a half hour relitigation on rule interpretations or application thereof. Or are you talking the prima donna comment ,"which had nothing to do with the organisation of the day" OR the organisers.

[Deano]

I only have one beef and it is a personality issue, not a reflection on the club or the event. Not a major but pm me your number if you are interested to hear it graham.

[RobGassit]

I only have one beef and it is a personality issue, not a reflection on the club or the event. Not a major but pm me your number if you are interested to hear it graham.

Get well Deano. Tough break,,no pun intended.

[dean boy]

Hi all,

I'm looking for some feedback on how the event went from the racers perspective.

Please note I'm fully aware of the 'noise issue' and that cant be fixed here but I'm keen to see how you saw the rest of the event.

It will help in our de-brief and planning next year.

Cheers

KG

Well Done Graham, to you and your team, watched on line and was impressed with the promotion they did over net of what you had going on, oil clean up was great and it worked with having very little dead track time.
Awesome effort.

Dean from MC

[Nicksta]

I agree with everyone above.... and Glen's 8 out of 10

its tough to organise so much and have it run so well considering the events like oil spills etc; which I was very impressed with how quickly and WELL it was cleaned up!

If i would point out a negative... one would be the lack of calls on Sunday... a whole row missed the start in the first F3/Pro Twins race and started from the slip road which leads to my other gripe: correct me if i'm wrong, but I understood the rule was once the competitors were round/at T1 (past the slip rd) the slip road starters would go... it was a very scary surprise for me and half the pack to see 4 bikes come flying out the slip road right beside us (we were already 2 and 3 bikes abreast) and swerve into our line coming out of T1. I understand the people officiating that part are volunteers and do their best, its hard to practice that type of stuff so appreciate the marshall's hard work! - it just scared me a bit!

I liked the clarity of decisions from the officials but i did wonder what had happened to cause such a growling at briefing on Saturday from MNZ, bit of a shock for a first time nationals competitor!

Best part for me was seeing the marshals clapping us on the cool down laps of each race was awesome feeling to see they had enjoyed what they had just watched and made you feel good for what you had just achieved / completed

Thank you for the weekend and see you next year at Hampton Downs!

[Biggles08]

Yeah, couldn't hear it over a Kwaka....

Seriously though, where did you measure that, cos we struggled all Sat, though Sunday was a little easier.

Can't have been me...my bike purrs! We measured on the sunday right out the front of our pits...but it was a tongue in cheek comment about the stupid 95Db rule...the calls were nice and loud (97Db) as they should be so we could hear what was going on.

Biggles, personal opinion I guess. I thought Costello's approach was fine in the context of not having a half hour relitigation on rule interpretations or application thereof. Or are you talking the prima donna comment ,"which had nothing to do with the organisation of the day" OR the organisers.

I don't disagree with the ruling and the decisiveness about it...I thought it was a good idea to get the people actually affected by the stupid rule to have a separate meeting about it...not at the briefing...(even though they only invited the superbike riders and not x2 of the supersport riders affected also...but I digress).

My comments were not actually directed at any one person, just the whole process. I don't think Chris was that bad to be honest (could have been better but could have been worse too) but yes, that fella telling us we were all a bunch of premadonnas was a bit off and completely uncalled for...made me think he just liked the sound of his on "very authoritative voice."

I don't think its worth discussing any more anyway because the day was a great success from the clubs input perspective and they should all be congratulated...especially Graham as I know he was the driving force behind this well run day!

[malcy25]

Can't have been me...my bike purrs! We measured on the sunday right out the front of our pits...but it was a tongue in cheek comment about the stupid 95Db rule...the calls were nice and loud (97Db) as they should be so we could hear what was going on.



I don't disagree with the ruling and the decisiveness about it...I thought it was a good idea to get the people actually affected by the stupid rule to have a separate meeting about it...not at the briefing...(even though they only invited the superbike riders and not x2 of the supersport riders affected also...but I digress).

My comments were not actually directed at any one person, just the whole process. I don't think Chris was that bad to be honest (could have been better but could have been worse too) but yes, that fella telling us we were all a bunch of premadonnas was a bit off and completely uncalled for...made me think he just liked the sound of his on "very authoritative voice."

I don't think its worth discussing any more anyway because the day was a great success from the clubs input perspective and they should all be congratulated...especially Graham as I know he was the driving force behind this well run day!

Thanks Marcus. I guess my only comment is that the noise rule is MNZ not club and as Graham has alluded too, not a lot we can do directly about it as part of the event. I believe the ability to lift is null given what we are seeing in terms of environmental / council responses. If anything it will only get more closely managed or monitored, and already is in some places due to complaints being received already as you would have read here on Kiwibiker in the last 2 months.

I think our man wih authoritive voice may have seen a number of dummy's being spat on Saturday night, when in reality it's a rule that has been around for 10 years or more. Dunno. But I do know it's not going to go away and probably only going to get harder.

Yeah, was a good meeting overall eh!

Cheers ears.

[Billy]

I think our man wih authoritive voice may have seen a number of dummy's being spat on Saturday night, when in reality it's a rule that has been around for 10 years or more. Dunno. But I do know it's not going to go away and probably only going to get harder.

Yeah, was a good meeting overall eh!

Cheers ears.

Yerr,

Closer to 20 years Al.I have a plan to get a static test organised for Taupo so anybody with concerns can have their machine tested before going on track,If we can get it sorted we will try and have it available at ALL meetings where practical from now on.

[CHOPPA]

Yerr,

Closer to 20 years Al.I have a plan to get a static test organised for Taupo so anybody with concerns can have their machine tested before going on track,If we can get it sorted we will try and have it available at ALL meetings where practical from now on.

That sounds like a good option Billy, I think the hardest thing about the sound rule is that as hard as you might try to get your sound down on your bike there is no way we can test it for all conditions and its a pretty harsh penalty for over 98db with an instant black flag.

A static test at scruitineering would be great so you could rest assured you wont be black flagged for noise unless something dramatically changes on your bike but are there any rules in the rule book that cover a static noise limit?

The worry for me is that my bike from factory is 103db its written on the frame. I realise this is a different test but that to me says that my bike has the 'potential' to be over the 96db test even with the standard exhaust