How do you say "gate" in English?

[arkeo]

Oh, by "gate" I mean exactly the English word, and I was playing with the ambiguity... But it is better I explain what I am searching for.

One of the most common way to name a-not-too-performant bike in Italian is "cancello", in other words something like this:

http://www.mantovanelli.it/foto/canc...202%20ante.jpg

The word is widely used among friends when joking - everything depends on the context, of course.

The dictionary gives me "gate", which has other meanings not too overlapping with those in Italian. Of course it is seldom possible to find an exact matching between the words in two languages and I was not searching for a literal translation. But I am curious about the English/NZ-English word conveying the same idea of an heap of wreckage to name such bikes. Which is the most descriptive word?

Last but not least, since I know very little of the bike jargon, I'd like to learn more. Does anyone know some online bike vocabulary?

thanks a lot!

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[onearmedbandit]

We have a term here in NZ for a 'not too performing bike', although it originated in America. We call them 'Harley Davidsons'. Although another new term has come on the scene recently, once again not from our shores but this time from Korea. This term is 'Hyosung'.

No in all seriousness, I'm being serious.

Ok, straight up this time. Sometimes a crap bike will be referred to as a 'shed'. We also call slow bikes 'snails', that one's obvious. Sometimes we just get straight to the point, and this is 'piece-of-shit' or POS. 'Slug' is another, for obvious reasons again.

Crotch-Rocket - Sportsbike.
Squid - Rider who acts in a way most likely to cause death or injury through inexperience/stupidity, or one who wears shorts, t shirt and street shoes.
Power Ranger - sportsbike rider in matching/colourful leathers.
Mono -Wheelie
Endo - Stoppie
Backing it in - drifting the rear out entering a corner
WOT - Wide Open Throttle

So many more but time for bed.

[unstuck]

Shit bike= PIG.

[Usarka]

Tractor.

http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/19...or-machine.jpg

[Berries]

Brick?



Nail?


Un pezzo di merda?
No picture for that one.

[Nzpure]

surely, Bucket of bolts or heap of shit or a combination "bucket of shit" would apply here?

[arkeo]

surely, Bucket of bolts or heap of shit or a combination "bucket of shit" would apply here?

It rings a bit odd for the "natural sound" of English, but of course is very likely that I'm wrong

[mashman]

Honda Rider = Gay fulla

[unstuck]

Hi Mashy. Nah

[blue rider]

Etymology

From cancellī (“lattice, enclosure”), plural of cancellus (“diminutive; lattice, grating”), diminutive of cancer (“lattice”).

i would assume it refers to Grating (manhole cover) or Grater - as in cheese / nutmeg etc grater

[mashman]

i would assume it refers to Grating (manhole cover) or Grater - as in cheese / nutmeg etc grater

no pic for manhole cover?

[blue rider]

no pic for manhole cover?

the romans had some really nice ones....and frankly for someone who does not speak english as a first language....

Man Hole Cover can mean many many things....lol

same so with a Grater....its like the Gate.

[arkeo]

Etymology

From cancellī (“lattice, enclosure”), plural of cancellus (“diminutive; lattice, grating”), diminutive of cancer (“lattice”).

i would assume it refers to Grating (manhole cover) or Grater - as in cheese / nutmeg etc grater

I think that all this is getting a bit confusing because you searched for the etymology of "cancello" in English, whereas the same word exists in Italian also. I am not surprised that you found some similar words because of the historical development of both languages, much more connected than may seem. Both English and Italian share a surprisingly amount of words but the history and usage of each one is now rather different - false friends are one of the difficulties for an Italian or French when studying English. So, what a mess !

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[blue rider]

I think that all this is getting a bit confusing because you searched for the etymology of "cancello" in English, whereas the same word exists in Italian also. I am not surprised that you found some similar words because of the historical development of both languages, much more connected than may seem. Both English and Italian share a surprisingly amount of words but the history and usage of each one is now rather different - false friends are one of the difficulties for an Italian or French when studying English. So, what a mess !

A.

hence why i believe the closest would be the grating, as in not smooth, not fast and easy, but grating , slowly or as some said upstairs. a snail, slug.....

[george formby]

Any old dunga, car, bike etc is a "shed". I would guess because sheds do not move very fast...

As in " I went to see that GSBRX today, what a bloody shed. Hasn't been serviced in years & rust everywhere."

Gate could also be gait, the manner in which it moves... just a thought.