Got a online shop? Active scammer targeting nz shops

[Madness]

Cranes

How's sales going?

[SMOKEU]

As in one that comes from a company that has the funds to drop 30k in one go.

Do you also refuse to do business with people because you don't like what car they drive, or because the watch they wear doesn't appeal to you, or because their wedding ring has the wrong kind of rock on it?

[onearmedbandit]

Cranes

As in one that comes from a company that has the funds to drop 30k in one go.

No just know my client base, and its not tight arse's or poor people with hotmail accounts.

30k? I thought you must be selling products in 300k plus market. And you might know your current client base, but there are a lot of people out there to whom 30k is chump change yet care little about where their email is stored. But it's your business and you're obviously happy with the way it runs, and most businesses that purchase from you will have a paid account. I just think that your first comment in here is incredibly naive.

[BoristheBiter]

How's sales going?

quite good. thanks for asking.

Do you also refuse to do business with people because you don't like what car they drive, or because the watch they wear doesn't appeal to you, or because their wedding ring has the wrong kind of rock on it?

You also forgot race, age, religion......... oh sorry I forgot that's your cracker arse.

30k? I thought you must be selling products in 300k plus market. And you might know your current client base, but there are a lot of people out there to whom 30k is chump change yet care little about where their email is stored. But it's your business and you're obviously happy with the way it runs, and most businesses that purchase from you will have a paid account. I just think that your first comment in here is incredibly naive.

Its a quick comment on a biker forum I think I might get over it.
But it worth knowing that those with the free email accounts are generally either the last to pay, argue about the bill or end up going to debt collectors.

[onearmedbandit]

Its a quick comment on a biker forum I think I might get over it.
But it worth knowing that those with the free email accounts are generally either the last to pay, argue about the bill or end up going to debt collectors.

If that's a pattern you've noticed, then you are no doubt wise to ignore those enquiries and do away with the inconvenience. It was just interesting to discover your rationale behind it.

[SVboy]

How's sales going?

Oh-up and down!!

[The Singing Chef]

Times like these I wish I had a fake online web page, he's asking for product lists and prices. Wonder what I will actually end up doing? Any one have some ideas?

[Berries]

But it worth knowing that those with the free email accounts are generally either the last to pay, argue about the bill or end up going to debt collectors.

Won't argue with your experience, but you might be missing out on quite a bit of business with that view, and business from people who would be very good clients where $30k is nothing if your gear is any good.

[Virago]

Do you also refuse to do business with people because you don't like what car they drive, or because the watch they wear doesn't appeal to you, or because their wedding ring has the wrong kind of rock on it?

In business you learn to filter out the scammers. Emails from kylbtysuortxcdfz7jnoexz@gmail.com which simply say "I'm interested in buying your goods" can be safely ignored.

[avgas]

In his defense guys F-All cranes are sold through email. It would be pretty rare to see a guy with a hotmail account say:

"Hi, what account should deposit the funds in for that 200 ton Liebherr"

its more likely going to be for support.

But in saying that - recently I was on site, and needed to email something to a manufacturer - so did it through a gmail account to save me hooking up to the office RDP. After my technical email the client I was working for ordered a Hitachi crane/digger.

Would you have blocked my support email because I was using a free email service rather than my work one?

[slofox]

Cranes

Damn. I'm all OK for cranes right now...

[BoristheBiter]

In his defense guys F-All cranes are sold through email. It would be pretty rare to see a guy with a hotmail account say:

"Hi, what account should deposit the funds in for that 200 ton Liebherr"

its more likely going to be for support.

But in saying that - recently I was on site, and needed to email something to a manufacturer - so did it through a gmail account to save me hooking up to the office RDP. After my technical email the client I was working for ordered a Hitachi crane/digger.

Would you have blocked my support email because I was using a free email service rather than my work one?

It depends, did you phone the guy first? if I knew it was coming i would put your email in, if not it would get bounced and I guess you would phone me up to check why.
I am more than happy to help people with technical questions but the odds of them coming back to buy something new (we don't deal second hand) is very slim indeed, maybe 1% if I'm lucky.

Looking through what was bounced today, 13 emails all either spam or trying to make contact to sell me stuff that I don't use, and I don't know what gets stopped by my provider, so I will keep with the status quo but thanks for all your concern.

[BoristheBiter]

Damn. I'm all OK for cranes right now...

darn it, I need to sell one this month

[SMOKEU]

In business you learn to filter out the scammers. Emails from kylbtysuortxcdfz7jnoexz@gmail.com which simply say "I'm interested in buying your goods" can be safely ignored.

When I'm doing business I filter out the scammers and other time wasters by the content of the email, not the email address. So far it's worked pretty damn well for me.

[slofox]

When I'm doing business I filter out the scammers and other time wasters by the content of the email, not the email address. So far it's worked pretty damn well for me.

I would have to say that a freebie email address IS a factor when I assess the bona fides of an email query. But it is not the only factor nor one of the most important.

Put it this way - I have not had an obvious scam from a paid account - they have all been from freebie accounts.