Goodbye England. Been nice knowing ya

[SMOKEU]

Fuck Islam. It's the most evil disease to spread through humanity in recent years.

[willytheekid]

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient" Rome."

-"A quote from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill, "The River War"

Churchill also wrote:
"Indeed it is evident that Christianity, however degraded and distorted by cruelty and intolerance, must always exert a modifying influence on men's passions, and protect them from the more violent forms of fanatical fever, as we are protected from smallpox by vaccination. But the Mahommedan religion increases, instead of lessening, the fury of intolerance. It was originally propagated by the sword, and ever since, its votaries have been subject, above the people of all other creeds, to this form of madness."

..wise man that Churchill

[mashman]

..wise man that Churchill

What did he say about Christianity, or Catholocism? Not having a pop as I have no "faith" in any religion that oppresses anyone based on gender, nationality, colour etc... and to that end I'm going to keep on laughing... words are cheap.

[Zedder]

Yep, the Catholic Church has had a few things to answer for.

Don't worry about the Muslim troublemakers though, another jackup like the Iraqi defector "Curveball" will probably occur and give the authorities just cause to "neutralise the threat".

[Bassmatt]

..wise man that Churchill

Churchill was a fucking asshole of the highest order.

[willytheekid]

Churchill was a fucking asshole of the highest order.

true!...but still onto it in this regard (he actually noted that the threat from Islam extremists etc to be higher than that of hitler)

[Zedder]

Churchill was a fucking asshole of the highest order.

Why do you think he was an "asshole" Bassmatt?

[Bassmatt]

Why do you think he was an "asshole" Bassmatt?

"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it" - W. Churchill


just the tip of the iceberg:
Churchill was instrumental in establishing the illegal starvation blockade of Germany. The blockade depended on scattering mines, and classified as contraband food for civilians. But, throughout his career, international law and the conventions created to limit the horrors of war meant nothing to Churchill. One of the consequences of the hunger blockade was that, while it killed 750,000 German civilians by hunger and malnutrition, the youth who survived went on to become the most fanatical Nazis.

Whether Churchill actually arranged for the sinking of the Lusitania on May 7, 1915, is still unclear, but it is clear that he did everything possible to ensure that innocent Americans would be killed by German attempts to break the hunger blockade.

But Churchill's greatest war crimes involved the terror bombing of German cities that killed 600,000 civilians and left some 800,000 injured.
Churchill brazenly lied to the House of Commons and the public, claiming that only military and industrial installations were targeted. In fact, the aim was to kill as many civilians as possible. Hence the application of "carpet" bombing in an attempt to terrorize the Germans into surrendering.

[oneofsix]

So he was a strong willed man and just what Britain needed to get it through WWII. Was he an arsehole? yes like most strong willed people that will not listen to reason and hence why the Brits dropped him straight after WWII, unlike the Russians who were stuck with Stalin.

[Bassmatt]

So he was a strong willed man and just what Britain needed to get it through WWII. Was he an arsehole? yes like most strong willed people that will not listen to reason and hence why the Brits dropped him straight after WWII, unlike the Russians who were stuck with Stalin.

The food blockade and lusitania was WW1.

Muslims could rightfully argue that the "West" is at war with them. Whatever they do to get Islam "through" the war is ok with you then?

[Trade_nancy]

[QUOTE=Zedder;1130294814]Yep, the Catholic Church has had a few things to answer for.

Such as?? Say within the last 40-50 years...what specifics? I dunno if anything CAN compare to the hating and pain inflicted on innocents by individuals on their own crusades...such as bombings by extremists - be they Islamic or Catholic... But can a Christian religion be held to answer for nutters? I think Islam can..as such killing and hate seems to be part of their doctrine - so they say themselves. I'm no church goer now..but was born into a catholic family and raised to go do things in their church...till I got to 15 or so..and went to Sunday night horrors at the flicks instead (same thing some said). We were never taught to hate, kill, maim, treat women as inferiors....just the usual - go out and do good stuff that most christians are taught.You may have a valid point - would like to hear more to justify it though..

[sgtp]

what is with the media's switch from calling them terrorists to now calling them insurgents????

1in·sur·gent noun \-jənt\
Definition of INSURGENT
1: a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent
2: one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one's own political party

Definition of TERRORISM
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion


It makes you feel the media is sympathetic to the people that want to kill me

[oneofsix]

The food blockade and lusitania was WW1.

Muslims could rightfully argue that the "West" is at war with them. Whatever they do to get Islam "through" the war is ok with you then?

No the Muslims can't, they might be at war with the west as they are the aggressor and if they stopped their aggression they would be allowed to live in peace. If they keep pushing it they might end up facing an arse hole like Winnie, arguably they did for a bit in W.

Yeah I know that was WW1 as was Gallipoli, another winnie fuck up. And concentration camps were invented by the British but don't think that delight was his even if he was involved in the campaign. BTW it took more than the food blockade, you forgot the repatriation demands from the lovely French and their occupation but then again you were probably trying to avoid bringing up their involvement in the food blockade just like you did the US involvement in the supposed Lusitania conspiracy.

[Bassmatt]

[QUOTE=Trade_nancy;1130294907]

Yep, the Catholic Church has had a few things to answer for.

Such as?? Say within the last 40-50 years...what specifics?

Fucking little boys perhaps, covered up and basically condoned by the Catholic hierachy.

[Bassmatt]

what is with the media's switch from calling them terrorists to now calling them insurgents????

1in·sur·gent noun \-jənt\
Definition of INSURGENT
1: a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent
2: one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one's own political party

Definition of TERRORISM
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion


It makes you feel the media is sympathetic to the people that want to kill me

Because they are fighting against an occupying force, an Army. The occupiers are not the established govt.