Te Wiki o Te Reo Māori - Maori Language Week!

[oldfart]

Just wee point, but I (we) do pay for your Motorcycling stuff.
If you were to crash, you will get treated for free in hospital, and we will pay you a wage while you get better.

If we were to invoke a rule baning Motorcycles, we (the tax payer) would save millions and millions.
Of course, we would also ban smoking, rugby and everything not played in cotton wool, but you get my drift..

After 35 years of paying taxes & ACC levies, and never having claimed on either, I believe I am entitled to some hospital time. I also pay Health Insurance. So I would not consider my using these facilities as free, rather pre-paid.

[Quasievil]

And I accept that you have a different view point to me. One of the great things about democracy is we all get to vote for a political party that we believe is most likely represent our ideology. It saddens me that you use this forumn to abuse me & use personal slurs to try to make your veiwpoint as being superior or better than mine. I have not enjoyed my 1st social engagement with you at all.

Of course we have a different point of view,I dont think I have abused you though and used slurs if you have taken it that way I do apologize.
I have enjoyed our debate and given you a good rep for it.
Have a good one.

[ManDownUnder]

Oh for fucks sake show some respect would you, its the bloody heritage and culture of New Zealand for christs sake !

I hear ya - but I'd suggest it's part of the heritage and culture.

I respect it, I like it, and I have no problem with some taxes being channeled toward preserving it, and it artifacts (current and ancient).

I do see it as part of the NZ cultural landscape though - like Catholicism, Chinese Language and the multitude of other cultural influences we see all around us.

If you're Maori, you speak Maori and/or understand the culture - I am impressed. There seems to be a richness and depth to your backg4round I feel I don't have. I don't feel lacking - I feel you are blessed.

Likewise if you are Chinese, Asian, or Peruvian.

My perspective on it is this. Some of my best friends are Maori - they were Maori before they were my friends, but they were 'my friends' long before they were 'Maori'. (It makes sense if you read it enough times)

MDU

[oldfart]

Of course we have a different point of view,I dont think I have abused you though and used slurs if you have taken it that way I do apologize.
I have enjoyed our debate and given you a good rep for it.
Have a good one.

Well, with a reply like that, I have to think I'm the one being who needs to pull in my head so I'll apologise if I've given offence. As they we'll agree to disagree, one of the good things about being a kiwi is we are allowed to do this.

[Quasievil]

Trouble is why should a people that is not truly indigenous have rights to land they took from someone else.... Racism doesn't come into its just not right.
If it was the American Indians or the Aboriginies then it would be different, but Maoris tell us they came from somewhere else yet they still believe they have the right to it.
People always use the "Racist" term to attack anybody that goes against their views and in most cases it will stop an argument dead in its tracks.

MMmm I understand what youre saying but I dont agree.

[pharoahsoulero]

hi fellas, kareponia is a spanish not maori word, it was a fabled place in spanish literature much like el dorado, and is the original name given by the spanish to what is now baja california/california on the west coast of north america,the name california developed from this over the years as settlers from northern europe arrived and put their own slant/pronounciation on it

[pharoahsoulero]

Kareponia was called California back in my fathers days in the 30s,and before - there is even a AA road sign saying California.,well there was last time I was up there 5 years ago.

hello mate, kareponia is a spanish word,it was a fabled land in spanish literature much like el dorado,it was the original name given by the spanish settlers to what is now baja california/california on the west coast of north america,the name morphed into california with the arrival of north european settlers who put their own slant/pronounciation to it