If a tree fell in the forest...

**Pixie** · 28th July 2005, 01:01

No,but the hippy hugging it would get squashed

**Storm** · 28th July 2005, 10:01

Anyway, I feel people are overlooking the most important bit. Just what has Mr H been drinking lately? First the dirty rhymes, now this, the deep and introspective stuff. Whats next, the "I loves youse fullas.Yoush are my bessh mates" ?

On the other hand, its lasted at least a day or two, so well done on the length of the bender

**zadok** · 28th July 2005, 10:08

Originally Posted by KATWYN

It creates an energy - but if no-one or no thing (with audible
senses) are there to hear it - then it hasn't made a noise or
a sound (sound is something that is heard)

What if a deaf person was there? did it make a noise?

Well thats my opinion - . Is there a right
answer to that question Hitcher???

Good answer.

**kerryg** · 28th July 2005, 10:35

Originally Posted by Hitcher

If a tree fell in the forest and there was nobody there to hear it, would it still make a noise?

Aaaah...a metaphysical thread. This could be interesting......

Leads us to quantum physics and other mind-bending stuff. These are not my words (it's about the Copenhagen interpretation)

Nature at a sub-atomic level does not conform to normal logic. An electron ..shows signs of being a particle..but it also shows signs of being a wave (so-called wave-particle duality)..and it cannot be a wave and a particle at the same time. Wave particle duality is nature's way of informing us that we have no right to impose our human concepts on the sub-atomic level...An electron is not a thing until we observe it.. If so does this not imply that reality depends on our observations?...and does this not imply that reality is created by human thoughts??

Hence, no observer, no sound. That's the answer according to metaphysical idealism...

**Lou Girardin** · 28th July 2005, 10:36

Whenever I hear philosophy I reach for my revolver. ( To paraphrase Hermann Goering)

**Sniper** · 28th July 2005, 10:58

Fine, I'll be the one to answer logically. Yes it does

**kerryg** · 28th July 2005, 11:04

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Whenever I hear philosophy I reach for my revolver. ( To paraphrase Hermann Goering)

Interesting choice of source, Lou

**Riff Raff** · 28th July 2005, 11:09

By "no one being there to hear it" I assume that means humans - it would say "nothing" if it meant all creatures. Therefore there will still be creatures with aural sensory organs to hear the thud. And even if there has been a nuclear holocaust, there would still be those damn cockroaches around to hear it.

**Paul in NZ** · 28th July 2005, 11:19

2 cows are in a paddock and one falls.... Regardless of where there is anyone near, it is not (a) herd.

Paul N (as deep as a..

**Bartman10** · 28th July 2005, 12:26

My $0.02 worth: it depends what you define as sound. Does molecular compression and expansion in the range 20-20,000 Hz constitute sound? What do you mean by 'nobody'? If an animal herd it would it be making a sound to that animal.

Ultimately the point of a measurement (in this case by your ear) is to make a decision, and depending on the risks or benefits involved you take an action, which may or may not be appropriate.

In light of the above point I'd have to say 'who cares?'.

Oh and kill the friggen cat will ya, before it pisses on the carpet.

**Lou Girardin** · 28th July 2005, 12:37

Originally Posted by kerryg

Interesting choice of source, Lou

He had some interesting quotes.
Another was, 'If you see English planes over Berlin, you can call me Meyer"

I bet no-one did though.

**unhingedlizard** · 28th July 2005, 12:43

heard of cows?

**Paul in NZ** · 28th July 2005, 12:53

Originally Posted by unhingedlizard

heard of cows?

Of course I have, you heard of chickens? (falling)

**unhingedlizard** · 28th July 2005, 12:57

if a man farted in a spacesuit, would anyone hear it? And would he still get invited to parties?

**Sniper** · 28th July 2005, 13:10

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

2 cows are in a paddock and one falls.... Regardless of where there is anyone near, it is not (a) herd.

Paul N (as deep as a..

Two cows in a paddock, one turns to the other and says, "I hope this mad cow disease doesn't come here". The other replies," Doesnt bother me, Im a helicopter" (Helicopter sound with spitting included noise attached here)

Sorry