Rule change in BSB - do we effectively have the same rule?

[budda]

Seems silly that if I was to crash I would have to have someone less qualified than myself and my team to check over a bike they have no knowledge on to tell me if it is safe

Come on Choppa - most scrutineerOOPS, I mean machine examiners are doing the job BECAUSE of their experience ....... in fact most would have forgotten more than most riders know about safe machine preparation. This is about another, unbiased set of eyes checking YOUR bike to save YOUR arse, NOT an un-needed way of throwing a spanner in the works of your race day

[CHOPPA]

Come on Choppa - most scrutineerOOPS, I mean machine examiners are doing the job BECAUSE of their experience ....... in fact most would have forgotten more than most riders know about safe machine preparation. This is about another, unbiased set of eyes checking YOUR bike to save YOUR arse, NOT an un-needed way of throwing a spanner in the works of your race day

Yeah its not such a bad idea really, I know what you mean about another set of eyes. Sometimes something can be looking straight at you but because you have been looking for so long you miss it. I have seen the state of some bikes people turn up to the track on as well.....

[lukemillar]

However it is our intention to clarify this further for next years series and we are looking at introducing a rule as used internationally that makes it compulsory to have a bellypan or catch tray that holds a minimum of 3 litres to further reduce the risk of fluids leaking on to the track surface.

Yes! Coming from the UK, I was really surprised when I found this wasn't a requirement on race bikes here.

[jellywrestler]

Are you seriously implying someone under 25 years old would want to actually do something, rather than expect someone to do it for them?

point taken Steve, what the fuck was I thinking?

[jellywrestler]

Sometimes something can be looking straight at you but because you have been looking for so long you miss it.

Shoulda gone to specsavers!

[SWERVE]

point taken Steve, what the fuck was I thinking?

Alas in many cases that is true.......... but not all.

[Skunk]

For example:
At the final National round attaching a Trailer to Super-Quad enabled the bikes to be loaded much faster and returned to pit lane behind the last bike to clear the track. Much faster than waiting for the track to be clear & sending out a recovery vehicle etc.

That was one of the best and simplest ideas I've seen in a long time. One of those "Why hasn't that been done before" moments. PMCC did really well with it and we're arranging it for the Winter Series.

Having a medic in the safety car was good too but I don't think we need that at every event. Having the ambulance ready to roll at race starts and First Aiders on the quads is more effective.

[budda]

Yeah its not such a bad idea really, I know what you mean about another set of eyes. Sometimes something can be looking straight at you but because you have been looking for so long you miss it. I have seen the state of some bikes people turn up to the track on as well.....

Plain bloody SCARY mate .......I'm reasonably fussy with my own bikes, but have to admit that sometimes another set of peepers have spied something I could have done better. Just imagine, if we could get Race bikes SAFE, OIL TIGHT, QUIET and CRASHPROOF, how much more racing could we all get in on Race Day ?

[SWERVE]

Yeah its not such a bad idea really, I know what you mean about another set of eyes. Sometimes something can be looking straight at you but because you have been looking for so long you miss it. I have seen the state of some bikes people turn up to the track on as well.....

Bike inspection is most welcomed from this camp. I spend countless hrs maintaining/prepping my bikes, but am all to happy for another to check it over. Nobody is perfect and should take any thing found to be wrong as a blessing in disguise.
I remember the good ol days when srutineering started at 5.00am and it was a long queue even then............. oh and to have to take the "walk of shame" back past everyone else.............. let alone having to re-join the end of queue.
At the big meetings when i was crewing for drag race teams we had to arrive a day early...just for scrutineering. (and we were only on track for 7sec at a time.some much less)
While some might say it irelevent as anyone can change something after scrutineering or leave something loose while doing routine stuff between races...........true.
But anyone rider or crew who doesnt take the correct approach/responsibility to working on a race bike..... should consider if they are in the right sport. We all have a duty of care not only to ourselves or our rider/s but to every other person on or off the track that will suffer from the consequences of our carelessness.
I pulled the pin on trying to get one of my bikes repaired at HD. We could have got it out on track....probebly/just but i would not have been able to check everything the way i felt comfortable with...... so the descision was made. Might have only been the Protwin champs at stake... but would have made same descision if it had been a superbike.
As i have posted elsewhere on KB........ i have been caught out by such actions.......... so very anal about this now.