Sue Bradfords Anti-Spanking Bill

[Wolf]

Is it allowed to give extended time out?
Say, 15 years.

I think only the judicial system can give that and even then you can get out early

[crashe]

Does Sue Bradford have a husband? If so he must be spanking her in all the wrong places.

Yep she does.... Bill (William) Bradford
They live out in West Auckland somewhere....

[vifferman]

Does Sue Bradford have a husband? If so he must be spanking her in all the wrong places.

Spanking the monkey, perhaps? :sly:

[crashe]

ok Sue Bradford is pissed off and started this Bill because of some parents doing grevious body harm to their children.
She was really peeved when the parent horse-whipped their child and got off it in court. I think the child in question had done something really bad to someone else at school. so the mother horsewhipped him as punishment.

Now some parents (No not all, I did say some) are going over board and fair whacking their child/ren... either over the head or with a hunk of wood etc.
This is what they want to stop from happening.

Some parents have almost killed their child/ren and shouldnt be allowed to have kids. Some have even killed their child. This must be stopped from happening.

Sure years ago we all (Those of us that are a tad older) got belted or whipped with a belt or strapped on the hand.. and yes we survived it.
But I bet you say, that you won't do that to your kids what your parents did to you.

Yes I smacked my daughter on the butt and sent her to her room (time out)... she has turned out ok. I have a almost four year old grandaughter and I have only smacked her hand once. She used to get sent to the bedroom (time out) til she "Sorts her shit out". While she was in there screaming, yelling or crying she didn't play with the toys...hehehe. Now at almost four years of age.... she does understand when she is being told off.

But the violence against children must stop.

But there will be some do-gooder out there, that will dob in someone for just smacking a child's hand... Those are the ones to worry about as well. They don't think a child should have a wee tap/smack on the butt.

[k14]

Yeah this is total bollox. I used to get a decent whack on the arse (along with my other 2 brothers), mostly with the "jam spoon" (a wooden spatula that was very solid and lasted 15 or so years of punishments) when we were out of line. I used to hate that thing, but I knew that when I got it i deserved it. It was usually followed by between 10 minutes and a couple of hours in my bedroom, depending on the offence. Now being slightly older I can see that it was a very good way of disiciplining me and my brothers and we are better off having experienced that.

I sure as hell will be doing the same when the time comes (still a long way off yet) for me to bring up kids of myself. In my opinion it is a very effective way of portraying the right message, but as in all facets of life it is wrecked for the majority by the minority.

[James Deuce]

But the violence against children must stop.

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There's only one way that will happen. Actively teach people how to be parents. At the moment you have to pick it up from people who may be getting it wrong, because they got the wrong instructions, etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum.

Stop giving Social workers laws with which to separate Parents and Children if theparents ask for help on how to do it properly too. Few parental relationships survive a CYF intervention.

[SixPackBack]

How do you legalise 'common sense' most of us know what 'smacking and discipline in regards to a child entails. A strong sense of doing the right thing for the child and the wider community.

Children can become highly 'animated' and smacking is an excellent tool in bringing the child back to reality........a short sharp shock is some times needed, no amount of talking can help sometimes

For the record i have smacked my daughter, and i would consider her a superlative example of humanity *do not smack her now at 15 she smacks back *

[White trash]

***Gets weights out and starts high-intensity, low rep mass building programme***

Better do something, your kids are already taller than you.

[Lou Girardin]

ok Sue Bradford is pissed off and started this Bill because of some parents doing grevious body harm to their children.
She was really peeved when the parent horse-whipped their child and got off it in court. I think the child in question had done something really bad to someone else at school. so the mother horsewhipped him as punishment.

Now some parents (No not all, I did say some) are going over board and fair whacking their child/ren... either over the head or with a hunk of wood etc.
This is what they want to stop from happening.

Some parents have almost killed their child/ren and shouldnt be allowed to have kids. Some have even killed their child. This must be stopped from happening.

Sure years ago we all (Those of us that are a tad older) got belted or whipped with a belt or strapped on the hand.. and yes we survived it.
But I bet you say, that you won't do that to your kids what your parents did to you.

Yes I smacked my daughter on the butt and sent her to her room (time out)... she has turned out ok. I have a almost four year old grandaughter and I have only smacked her hand once. She used to get sent to the bedroom (time out) til she "Sorts her shit out". While she was in there screaming, yelling or crying she didn't play with the toys...hehehe. Now at almost four years of age.... she does understand when she is being told off.

But the violence against children must stop.

But there will be some do-gooder out there, that will dob in someone for just smacking a child's hand... Those are the ones to worry about as well. They don't think a child should have a wee tap/smack on the butt.

This bill will have absolutely no effect on any of this. Do speeding laws stop speeding? Did prohibition stop drinking?
Child bashers will remain child bashers.
The difference is that good parents will have one more thing to fear.
Like I first said, a hysterical over-reaction to one juries strange decision.
Juries also bring in not guilty verdicts if they consider a defendant insane. Shall we do away with this defence too?

[James Deuce]

Better do something, your kids are already taller than you.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Lias]

This bill will have absolutely no effect on any of this. Do speeding laws stop speeding? Did prohibition stop drinking?
Child bashers will remain child bashers.
The difference is that good parents will have one more thing to fear.
Like I first said, a hysterical over-reaction to one juries strange decision.
Juries also bring in not guilty verdicts if they consider a defendant insane. Shall we do away with this defence too?

Well said Lou

[Indiana_Jones]

A joke. A fucking joke.

Makes me sick. I guess the defence force won't be allowed to use guns next, they might trumatize the enemy

-Indy

[mstriumph]

yes - agreed - but for the child that choice is meaningless without the concept of what a 'smack' is [which is theoretically possible if someone legislates that way]?

[/color]

I hear ya - but again - we put it in 2yo speak. "This is naughty, and if you do it you will get a smack"

Comprehension of what a car would do if it hit her would not be possible, and any demonstrations or pictures innappropriate

MDU

[Lou Girardin]

A joke. A fucking joke.

Makes me sick. I guess the defence force won't be allowed to use guns next, they might trumatize the enemy

-Indy

Iceman without an M61 and a bunch of Sidewinders just wouldn't be the same.

[mstriumph]

.. and have several perfect kiddies who have never dashed out into traffic, tried to eviscerate their younger siblings and all of whom passed logic 101 at the tender age of 18months?

Yep she does.... Bill (William) Bradford
They live out in West Auckland somewhere....