Rossi/Ducati rift denied

**Pwalo** · 19th April 2012, 10:39

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Firstly...a lot of the 'development' on race bikes is done by the factory's 'development riders' not the racers. Seondly...it's not as if Stoner has been the only 'factory' rider on the Ducati the whole time is it? Capirossi? Hayden? Melandri? So not like he was the only guy giving the factory input eh? Have you not read Stoner saying that he (like Rossi is saying now) never got from the factory what he was always asking for?

Too true, but not too may of the development riders are as fast as the GP boys. Various sources also reckon Stoner did well despite the Ducati factory pretty well ignoring his feedback ,and requests for chassis/engine changes. He must be enjoying himself at the Repsol Honda team!

The Duc has certainly destroyed a few careers, and I believe Ducati offered M Melandri a few sessions with a psychiatrist rather than change their machine. You have to admire Stoner's nerve when he was on the Ducati, but boy he looked like an accident waiting to happen at every corner.

It'll be interesting to see if Ducati are prepared to make further changes this year. Perhaps a 65 degree v twin with a smaller bore?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 19th April 2012, 10:46

Originally Posted by Pwalo

Too true, but not too may of the development riders are as fast as the GP boys. Various sources also reckon Stoner did well despite the Ducati factory pretty well ignoring his feedback ,and requests for chassis/engine changes. He must be enjoying himself at the Repsol Honda team!

The Duc has certainly destroyed a few careers, and I believe Ducati offered M Melandri a few sessions with a psychiatrist rather than change their machine. You have to admire Stoner's nerve when he was on the Ducati, but boy he looked like an accident waiting to happen at every corner.

It'll be interesting to see if Ducati are prepared to make further changes this year. Perhaps a 65 degree v twin with a smaller bore?

Think you'll find Ducati and the Italians were that arrogant about their bike not being the 'problem' when Stoner was crashing they chose to ignore his requests. After all...he was winning races right? Can't be the bikes fault. He may've been a victim of his own ability.

There is talk of them closing up the vee angle. And it makes pefect sense. A 90 deg v is a fucking long engine and hard to place correctly in the frame.

The whole sad saga has gotta be THE worst PR nightmare ever for them.

**Swoop** · 19th April 2012, 11:02

The saying about "poor tradesmen blaming their tools" comes to mind for some reason.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 19th April 2012, 11:04

Originally Posted by Swoop

The saying about "poor tradesmen blaming their tools" comes to mind for some reason.

Yeah I can't remember Stoner ever complaing as publically or as loudly as Rossi is though...

**SimJen** · 19th April 2012, 11:05

latest news from Ducati is they will be concentrating on making the power more usable as they think this is linked to the chronic understeer that Rossi and Hayden are experiencing. Seems the power is a little too brutal when first applied mid corner!

**Oscar** · 19th April 2012, 11:12

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Yeah I can't remember Stoner ever complaing as publically or as loudly as Rossi is though...

True.
Stoner don't complain about his bike.
He complains about other riders, mostly.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 19th April 2012, 11:19

Originally Posted by Oscar

True.
Stoner don't complain about his bike.
He complains about other riders, mostly.

Yeah Rossi's never complained about others getting a tow eh. Doohan never did either. Tui ad. Haters be a hatin.

**SimJen** · 19th April 2012, 11:32

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Yeah I can't remember Stoner ever complaing as publically or as loudly as Rossi is though...

Stoner did complain its just wasn't world news when he used to say something!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 19th April 2012, 11:34

Originally Posted by SimJen

Stoner did complain its just wasn't world news when he used to say something!

lol. Could have a point there. Rossi is like the Pope! But I certainly can't recall Stoner ever saying he couldn't ride the Ducati.

**Oscar** · 19th April 2012, 11:37

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Yeah Rossi's never complained about others getting a tow eh. Doohan never did either. Tui ad. Haters be a hatin.

Yeah, haters be haters, lovers be lovers.
In related news, can you comment on the rumour that you have a life sized, anatomically correct blow-up Casey Stoner doll? And that you’re considering a civil union with it?

**SimJen** · 19th April 2012, 11:43

Originally Posted by Oscar

Yeah, haters be haters, lovers be lovers.
In related news, can you comment on the rumour that you have a life sized, anatomically correct blow-up Casey Stoner doll? And that you’re considering a civil union with it?

wouldn't be much call for them id imagine! probably bought it shop soiled, old stock going cheap!
though Casey must have some good points, his missus is FIT! (sorry WAS, kid etc).

**Crasherfromwayback** · 19th April 2012, 11:46

Originally Posted by Oscar

Yeah, haters be haters, lovers be lovers.
In related news, can you comment on the rumour that you have a life sized, anatomically correct blow-up Casey Stoner doll? And that you’re considering a civil union with it?

Think it's far more likely you've got yourself a Rossi one mate. And I bet if it's anatomically correct, it's got a well used rear hole.

Ps:. When is Rossi's GF giving birth to his child? Fucking thing must be around 6 months overdue now.

**Oscar** · 19th April 2012, 12:00

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Think it's far more likely you've got yourself a Rossi one mate. And I bet if it's anatomically correct, it's got a well used rear hole.

Ps:. When is Rossi's GF giving birth to his child? Fucking thing must be around 6 months overdue now.

Nah, I don't fixate on road racers, all that leather doesn't do it for me.

Cyril Despres, on the other hand...that KTM orange gets a man going...