Hacking into a WEP secured network

[jrandom]

I'd be impressed if you managed to keep me outta a WEP network

My point is that you should have a little respect for the work it took to write the tools you're so smug about being able to download and hit the 'go' button on.

I believe, based on your post(s), that you would be incapable of writing them yourself, and do not understand what they're actually doing.

[Scuba_Steve]

My point is that you should have a little respect for the work it took to write the tools you're so smug about being able to download and hit the 'go' button on.

I believe, based on your post(s), that you would be incapable of writing them yourself, and do not understand what they're actually doing.

Write them you'd be correct. Understand them, I have a working knowledge.
I have respect for them but I also acknowledge that because of their availability WEP network hacking is like I mentioned, about as difficult as breaking into an open home.

[sil3nt]

This is why I hate IT. Everyone is an expert.

[Nova.]

My neighbor was kind enough to make his password 'wellington'
had two ps3's running off that for a month until he found out lol. his bill must of been horrendous

[pzkpfw]

My neighbor was kind enough to make his password 'wellington'
had two ps3's running off that for a month until he found out lol. his bill must of been horrendous

Serious question: if he'd left the keys in his car, would you have stolen it? If he'd dropped his wallet in the street in front of your house, would you have taken the $40 in it?

[Scuba_Steve]

This is why I hate IT. Everyone is an expert.

and as long as we can keep people believing that the money keeps rolling in... if only people knew what we really did

[schrodingers cat]

Awesome pissing contest!

Does the troll get to be the referee?

[Viking01]

Following article might be of interest:

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/...-wi-fi-network

[willytheekid]

Sigh

Don't break into other peoples Wifi! (heard of morals?)

For those of you concerned about security, just used WPA2 and a nice long password (12+ chars), this will ensure that wannabe "hackers" cannot piggyback your home connection easily.(WPA2 is actually pritty secure unless you have the tools, knowledge and the patience to packet capture and descramble the encrypted data)
Always have the option "notify device registration" (differs according to router type etc) set to yes, as this will ensure that anything "trying" to connect to your wifi router will generate a notification message on your registered PC and will not allow a connection until you click "allow"
Most importantly, DON'T just plug in your new WIFI router and leave it set to factory default!, take a little time to set up your security and passwords etc as some routers come set up with the same default settings, this make it easyer for others with the same router to gain access

Breaking into someones WIFI is not only wrong, but its a breach of the electronic communications act!...and the people I work for take these "break ins" VERY seriously...in other words, if you accidentally "try" to breach the security of your local banks WIFI etc....people like me get an immediate notification from the intrusion detection systems and we "jump to it" to track down the offending device and its owner (signals go BOTH ways remember)....and you DO NOT want us to catch you in the act! (you will end up in court)

I can understand the interest in "trying it out", and how "borrowing" your neighbors connection doesn't seem like too bad a thing to do....but its a changing world!, and besides, would YOU like someone eating through your data cap and snooping around on your own PC?

Just don't do it guys...think of it like someone "borrowing" your ride with out asking (you'd kick there arse! lol)

Take care KBers, and have a great ANZAC day....lest we forget

[NordieBoy]

and as long as we can keep people believing that the money keeps rolling in... if only people knew what we really did

I live in fear of people finding out that I actually think what I do is fun and stop me doing it and make me get a real job

[steve_t]

Edit: WPA is broken, although not as badly as WEP. WPA2 is still secure, assuming you choose a password that is long enough not to be brute forced and can't be guessed. See http://arstechnica.com/security/news...-cracked.ars/1

This was back in 2008. I can only imagine that the time needed is much much less these days

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/e...ce-attack/2724

[jrandom]

This was back in 2008. I can only imagine that the time needed is much much less these days

Yes; the speed of computers increases as a linear progression, though, while increasing password length increases the computational difficulty exponentially. (And decreasing it decreases the difficulty exponentially.)

Short or easily-guessed passwords will always be weak against brute-forcing, no matter how solid the underlying encryption is. And passwords that are long enough will always be secure against brute-forcing, assuming that our current understanding of basic physics is correct and ignoring the possibility that presumed-solid encryption can eventually be mathematically broken.

Personally, just like the cartoon suggests, I use passphrases for everything that matters.

[jrandom]

For teh epic lulz. I just want to see if I can do it really, I'm not even going to try with WPA/WPA2 as that's very secure from what I've heard.

I see you lurking.

Can I make a suggestion?

Instead of looking to spend your time and brainpower cracking shit for lulz (which is, once you get over the fact that technology is involved, basically akin to tagging scribbles on walls, peeping at people through open blinds or stealing wallets from car gloveboxes) why don't you teach yourself computer programming and start doing useful and interesting things with it?

It might even lead to a lucrative career, if you don't already have one.

Just a thought.

[Usarka]

Personally, just like the cartoon suggests, I use passphrases for everything that matters.

Except microsoft websites, they will tell you the passphrase is too weak.

[jrandom]

Except microsoft websites, they will tell you the passphrase is too weak.

Mmyes. There are algorithms for measuring information entropy. Presumably Microsoft's web people are uninformed. In fact, I don't know that I've ever seen a website password checking thingy that uses such technology.

An old colleague of mine incorporated a bunch of that stuff in her master's thesis. I just went googling for it and found her blog, which I'd forgotten existed, and spent a quarter of an hour looking at her photos. Now I've forgotten the point I was going to make.

People and their holiday snaps on the internet aye. All about not putting themselves in the shot. Just pictures of buildings and scenery and shit. If there's anything I've learned about photography (I haven't learned much about photography) it's that a photo needs a point of interest. Just because you're excited about being some place doesn't mean it'll make a good photo. Unless it's, like, on the moon, or at the top of a mountain or something.

Put yourself or your companion(s) in the shot. Just grit your teeth and do it. The photos with people in them are the ones that'll be noticed and remembered. Self-consciousness be damned, everyone already knows what you look like.