What Price a Life?

**tigertim20** · 29th April 2012, 17:26

Originally Posted by mashman

Context = No money.... ergo free to pick one up off the shelves if there is one available.

You're right. No one would do anything if they weren't being paid for it.

The same as happens now, especially when they could go to the shop and just get it for free. When I haven't been using things I happily share. I know it's a radical concept, but it could just catch on... as well as negate the need for someone to thieve.

And you can pick those goods up off the shelf for free if you want, so no need to take anything of anyone else i.e. thieve. Is the free thing sinking in yet? or are you still expecting people you know absolutely nothing about to earn the right to have stuff? and where do you draw the line as to how much they have earned before they deserve something. Such an archaic attitude.

Tell me bout it.

so if everything is is free, who makes all this stuff?
would you spend 16 hours a day designing an xbox, or a game, or filming a movie, when everything is free, and some cunt who sits at home and smokes weed all day is entitled to everythig you are?
fuck no.

competition is a necessary part of human society, we need it to thrive and proceed forwards - what you are suggesting is a return to the stone age, or even earlier.

take your 'what ifs' and fuck off until you have a solution that might actually have a chance at working, without destroying civilisation as we know it

**SMOKEU** · 29th April 2012, 17:28

Originally Posted by tigertim20

Ooooooooh, so you're an independent thinking intellectual?

I don't need the government to tell me what to think or do.

**scumdog** · 29th April 2012, 17:33

Originally Posted by mashman

Context = No money.... ergo free to pick one up off the shelves if there is one available.

You're right. No one would do anything if they weren't being paid for it.

The same as happens now, especially when they could go to the shop and just get it for free. When I haven't been using things I happily share. I know it's a radical concept, but it could just catch on... as well as negate the need for someone to thieve.

And you can pick those goods up off the shelf for free if you want, so no need to take anything of anyone else i.e. thieve. Is the free thing sinking in yet? or are you still expecting people you know absolutely nothing about to earn the right to have stuff? and where do you draw the line as to how much they have earned before they deserve something. Such an archaic attitude.

Tell me bout it.

The chain of people involved in making and getting to the shelves on say an X-box is massive, you expect all these people to get the X-box into lazy-arses hands for free?

Right from the designer to the store-keepers help that fills the shelves?

"Tell 'im 'es dreamin"...

**scumdog** · 29th April 2012, 17:34

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

I don't need the government to tell me what to think or do.

So who DOES tell you what to think or do?

**FJRider** · 29th April 2012, 17:39

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

I don't need the government to tell me what to think or do.

I'm guessing ... but as you seem to post things without thinking ... having anybody to tell you what to think would be pointless.

As for being told what to do ... stay safe. Don't do anything ...

**Madness** · 29th April 2012, 17:39

Originally Posted by scumdog

So who DOES tell you what to think or do?

My money's on this guy.

**mashman** · 29th April 2012, 17:41

Originally Posted by tigertim20

WOW!! you're a psychic too? who said their was a refusal to give the money? thats an assumption - making your argument invalid

bwaaaa ha ha ha haaaaaa... I also made another assumption that they were interrupted and also said "or whatever happened". Is that the best you have to invalidate the argument? Hell that was feeble.

Originally Posted by tigertim20

Really? this kind of thing happens all the time - someone getting bashed for a cell phone, wallet, credit card, ipod laptop, or their vehicle - the victim doesnt always die, but I doubt killing was the intention of the offender

Again, I never said the killing was intentional. I can see the bottom of the barrel, want me to wave as it's a long way down there? And what do they do with the cell phone, wallets, credit cards, iopds, laptops, motorcycles etc...? sell them for MONEY? Nooooo, say it ain't so.

Originally Posted by tigertim20

Bullshit. its human nature to want things you see, So you give them an xbox for free, and they will want more, and more and more.
Sooner or later the same person will be walking down the street, and see someone with a nice bicycle, and say, fuck yeah, Id like to have that bike, so they use stand over tactics, and or violence to get it.
there will ALWAYS be haves, and have nots, even if money is removed from the equation, goods are just as desirable.
And if you create a system where everything is free, human greed will have the inevitable result of some people still going out and taking other people's stuff because they WANT more. the only result here, is that the people who used to be 'have nots' have become the 'haves' because they go about taking things by force - and suggesting that we not put up a fight, and hand over our stuff without argument would only exacerbate that fact.

Oh dear, you pulled out the human nature card. It's not human nature for everyone, so your argument is invalid! Why would they want more if all they want is an xbox? You're tarriong an awful lot of people with your brush there and I know for a FACT that not everyone wants more more more.
There will always be haves and have nots and people will always want stuff and some go out of their way to do anything to gt it. Make it free and they'll, they'll, oh good lord they'll have to go to the shop and get themselves one without bashing anyone over the head to get what they want. Not everyone just wants stuff... and if you believe that I have a nice bridge that I'd like to lease you. I'm surprised advertising and marketing hasn't been banned because it encourages people to want and need stuff.

Human nature is that we react to a set of circumstances in any number of ways. There is no thick or fast rule that lumps us all as crims or saints, yet it would seem that people like yourself can't help but believe that. I'm not saying that greed doesn't exist, but it certainly isn't a given as most kids aren't greedy and happily take no for an answer. Adults are another thing entirely. Greed is learned, not innate.

**Number One** · 29th April 2012, 17:42

Hey Mashman wtf are you on about? How's this free thing sposed to work?? Are you suggesting this for serial or having a rant like I was?

**blue rider** · 29th April 2012, 17:44

some ideas from the way that used to be and the way they are other places.

i added a picture of sharia law just because.

**mashman** · 29th April 2012, 17:47

Originally Posted by tigertim20

so if everything is is free, who makes all this stuff?
would you spend 16 hours a day designing an xbox, or a game, or filming a movie, when everything is free, and some cunt who sits at home and smokes weed all day is entitled to everythig you are?
fuck no.

competition is a necessary part of human society, we need it to thrive and proceed forwards - what you are suggesting is a return to the stone age, or even earlier.

take your 'what ifs' and fuck off until you have a solution that might actually have a chance at working, without destroying civilisation as we know it

If we want cool toys, someone is gonna have to make them... who knows, some people may actually do the job they do because they enjoy it? Your stoner cunt already exists and the govt gives them money, what's the problem with having them exist and not costing you a cent? Seems like an odd position to take to me.

Competition won't just stop

... quite the opposite in fact. Collaboration is what drives us, not just competition. 3 pharma companies all working towards a cur for cancer... all there or there abouts, but not quite. Wonder if a competitor has the key to either of the other two's solutions. You'll never know until they collaborate. The current system stifles true competition, innovation and us moving forwards at break neck speed. bwaaaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa@back to the stone age. Why would we want to go back to where your ideas obviously come from

Try thinking about it ya dumb neanderthal lazy fuck.

**tigertim20** · 29th April 2012, 17:49

Originally Posted by scumdog

So who DOES tell you what to think or do?

simple, he doesnt think!!!

Originally Posted by Madness

My money's on this guy.

you must spread

Originally Posted by mashman

dibble dribble dribble

Do you have a degree in ignorance or something?

**mashman** · 29th April 2012, 17:50

Originally Posted by Number One

Hey Mashman wtf are you on about? How's this free thing sposed to work?? Are you suggesting this for serial or having a rant like I was?

Serial? Can you see the link in my sig? Yes I'm serial

**mashman** · 29th April 2012, 17:52

Originally Posted by scumdog

The chain of people involved in making and getting to the shelves on say an X-box is massive, you expect all these people to get the X-box into lazy-arses hands for free?

Right from the designer to the store-keepers help that fills the shelves?

"Tell 'im 'es dreamin"...

Fair enough. Let's just leave the criminals to their own devices (pun intended)... and to fuck with who they "damage" along the way. These people will exist in any system that's implemented. Although one system offers a way to keep innocent people from being hurt.