What does KB think i should do to this prick?

[flyingcrocodile46]

Not readily. Get more specific and I'll have a go.

Ok. Your sentence composition doesn't make any sense. I think it is broken.

[jonbuoy]

Right, and yet for some reason the OP is the one who is secretly at fault, by default on KB?

I laid out what happened. I was not riding in the slow or medium group. I was riding in the fast group, one down from race group as i could not get insurance in the race group
and it was my first time on puke. I think that alot of people on here seem to assume for what ever reason that im new to riding or i dont have the skills to ride fast.

for your information i was following the racing line as shown to me by a current title holder racer (not to be named)

By the same logic applied to my personal skill judgement currently bequeathed upon me i have no idea how SKILLED you people are either. For all i know, not that im assuming this, you could all have only logged road time and have ridden slow and braked early and dont ride correctly. I dont assume this, in the OP i asked for opinions on the situation, not judgement of my skills which none of you have seen by the sounds of it.

I dont claim to be a racer, but at least i was out there going fast, having fun and learning from professionals, can you all say the same or do you just ride to work and go for a spin on the weekend with your mates to buy a beer...

Im no wordsmith, but i got out there on what was suposed to be a day where i didnt have to worry about others behind me, and look what happened.
I don't condone ART days, nor the amcc, i appreciate that they are out there with pro's helping others to develop skills.

I went along to develop my skills, I was not the fastest there, but i was by no means slow, and how many of you, BAR RACERS, can say you went out on a new unknown track and went hard to your 100% from the first few laps.
I seriously doubt it, unless your the next rossi or stoner then i hazard a guess that half the judgements passed down here are from lesser skill people with fatter fingers who spend too much time on KB and not enough time out riding.

Its only a guess. and im not pointing fingers cause i dont know anyone on here bar one or two of you,
But in future i would suggest holding your judgement and assumptions till you know what your talking about, otherwise you just show your real personality.

Perhaps KB is why nobody is decent anymore haha.

I had a bit of sympathy in the beginning, not so much now. Maybe a 100% balls out on an unfamiliar track wasn´t such a good idea after all, you didn´t catch a glimpse of that bike in your peripheral vision? There is a reason you tape up lights and wear full leathers on the track. If people start suing each other left right and centre over trackdays there won´t be any trackdays.

[Ender EnZed]

Happy, unfortunate, legal, risk, accident. Look them up as you're getting them a bit confused and jumbled up.

By your logic Valentino Rossi should be on death row.

Valentino Rossi hasn't destroyed anyone's motorcycle on a low key traing day that is obviously aimed at increasing road skills rather than pushing as hard as posible.

I fully intend to enter clubmans racing in the next three years. I will not bitch if someone hits me. Being hit on a commercially run training day simply isn't the same thing! I just can't see why this so hard to understand, this is a fucking BHS at higher speed.

The only way that a training day on a track is any different is if somehow they are reserved for the elite and those plebs how don't already know how to ride should just stay the fuck off them. I don't think that's the intention, I don't think the OP deserves a ribbing.

[Ender EnZed]

Maybe a 100% balls out on an unfamiliar track wasn´t such a good idea after all, you didn´t catch a glimpse of that bike in your peripheral vision? There is a reason you tape up lights and wear full leathers on the track.

I struggle to see what your point is here. For what purpose did he tape his lights and mirrors up? Should he have been dwadling and looking behind him for faster riders?

Ok. Your sentence composition doesn't make any sense. I think it is broken.

Highlight your concerns and I'll do my best to address them.

Happy, unfortunate, legal, risk, accident. Look them up as you're getting them a bit confused and jumbled up.

By your logic Valentino Rossi should be on death row.

Do you suppose that Valetino Rossi rides exclusive on training days amongst those who could could'nt keep his exhaust plume in sight? I don't think he does so I think that the concerns that are relevant to this thread are ones that have anything to do with him.

[flyingcrocodile46]

I can't believe that crashes occur on training days. I mean WTF?

The riders should know how to control their bikes in these sorts of situations before they get on the track with other riders on a rider training day FFS. What are these rider training people thinking?

[flyingcrocodile46]

Highlight your concerns and I'll do my best to address them.

Do you suppose that Valetino Rossi rides exclusive on training days amongst those who could could'nt keep his exhaust plume in sight? I don't think he does so I think that the concerns that are relevant to this thread are ones that have anything to do with him.

Why don't we warm up with a simpler challenge first. ^

Do you actually read what you type?

[Ender EnZed]

Do you actually read what you type?

Ever so occassionallly. Would you like to argue with me or would you rather make vague statements that have airs of diminishing what I've said?

[scracha]

Valentino Rossi hasn't destroyed anyone's motorcycle on a low key traing day that is obviously aimed at increasing road skills rather than pushing as hard as posible.

Bollocks. The OP was in the fast group (a.k.a. the wannabe racers group) 250 odd clicks on Pukekohe back straight isn't going to improve your road skills.

I fully intend to enter clubmans racing in the next three years. I will not bitch if someone hits me. Being hit on a commercially run training day simply isn't the same thing! I just can't see why this so hard to understand, this is a fucking BHS at higher speed.

Nope. This is a TRACKDAY. Read my earlier post.

The only way that a training day on a track is any different is if somehow they are reserved for the elite

Bzzzt. Wrong. A training day on the road or publically accessible place has to adhere to the road rules.

and those plebs how don't already know how to ride should just stay the fuck off them. I don't think that's the intention, I don't think the OP deserves a ribbing.

And I'm sure it wasn't the other guy's intention to knock him off. The OP didn't deserve to get knocked off. That said:

Anyone who goes out in the fast (or medium) group on a motorcycle trackday believing that it's safer than a trip to Woolworths is delusional.

Anyone participating in ANY sport seeking damages against other participants for accidental damage is also delusional.

Consider your logic. Because you're saying that I'd need 3rd party insurance to play soccer, rugby, netball, tennis, horseriding, cycling or any number of other sports. Don't confuse this with emotion or right or wrong. I'm currently in pain and struggling to work (and sleep) due to another soccer player. Should I expect him to pay my medical bills and loss of earnings? No.

I seriously hope AMCC DO NOT give out the other guy's name without some form of legal order being issued. Otherwise I'll be attending trackdays with a false name.

Again, read my earlier post. If you don't want to get hurt in a sport....don't play it. If you don't want to lose money from playing a sport, insure yourself. Personal responsibility is accepting that sometimes other people do stupid things and that shit happens.

[flyingcrocodile46]

You're a troll. You name a thread "What does KB think i should do to this prick?" and promptly start stroking it for all its worth. FFS dude, you don't need to be clairvoyant to guess what people are going to say.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Ever so occassionallly. Would you like to argue with me or would you rather make vague statements that have airs of diminishing what I've said?

Say it again?

[Ender EnZed]

Bollocks. The OP was in the fast group (a.k.a. the wannabe racers group) 250 odd clicks on Pukekohe back straight isn't going to improve your road skills.

I have read your quote,

Nope. This is a TRACKDAY. Read my earlier post.

Listen to my words. I. Think. That. Being. Hit. By. Some. Cunt. On. A. Training. Day. Is. A. Bit. Rough.

Is this specific view point so outrageously out of line with what you understand to be portrayed to the vast maority of new road riders who hope to better themselves after getting a bike and coming on here?

Bzzzt. Wrong. A training day on the road or publically accessible place has to adhere to the road rules.

On the road, I have significant means for recourse should I think that another rider has wronged me, it seems I don't on the track.

And I'm sure it wasn't the other guy's intention to knock him off. The OP didn't deserve to get knocked off. That said:

Anyone who goes out in the fast (or medium) group on a motorcycle trackday believing that it's safer than a trip to Woolworths is delusional.

Anyone participating in ANY sport seeking damages against other participants for accidental damage is also delusional.

So the average rider has simply no place on the track and he should keep it clear for you to race on?

Consider your logic. Because you're saying that I'd need 3rd party insurance to play soccer, rugby, netball, tennis, horseriding, cycling or any number of other sports. Don't confuse this with emotion or right or wrong. I'm currently in pain and struggling to work (and sleep) due to another soccer player. Should I expect him to pay my medical bills and loss of earnings? No.

You consider my logic, I'm not playing a fucking sport when I attend a trackday! I FULLY EXPECT IN THE FUTURE TO PARTICIPATE IN CLUBMANS RACING, it may well be the case that you rub me in passing, I'll walk up to you after and slap you with the beer I'm handing you. None of this means that I think it's ok for you to knock my old man off the track because he wants to give it a go.

[TOTO]

So you'd be happy for me to nail your missus or your mate and her/his bike in the arse out of this world should they dare take a bike on your race track? Despite it being under the auspicious of your advice that track days are a good idea for everyone?

She knows the dangers of riding a bike and has chosen to live with the consequenses. Thats what a grown up person does. Not got on public forum and winge about it...and then winge some more that people gave their vies when asked for them.

You'd probably sue BMW if you think that their motorbike seats gave you an erection...

[Ender EnZed]

She knows the dangers of riding a bike and has chosen to live with the consequenses. Thats what a grown up person does. Not got on public forum and winge about it...and then winge some more that people gave their vies when asked for them.

You'd probably sue BMW if you think that their motorbike seats gave you an erection...

You give me an erection...

[TOTO]

Listen to my words. I. Think. That. Being. Hit. By. Some. Cunt. On. A. Training. Day. Is. A. Bit. Rough.

You. Have. Not. Done. One. Of. Those.

So you have no idea what you are talking about.

Group 1 and 2 usually get the most tuition and basics,
group 3 gets supervised.
Group 4 - advanced/racer practice

Every time there are people in group 3 on gsxr750, hayabusas, blackbirds and so on, that have signed up in that particular group purely because they think they are hot stuff. And they are NOT. Sux to be back on earth from cloud 9 if you drop your bike, but it is reality. There are risks. People accept them and move on.

[TOTO]

You give me an erection...

I know



you too...