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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    There is obvisouly a lot of people abusing parking which is why such a business exists.

    From the information presented (and only one side is presented) it seems an error of judgement has been made on behalf of the clampers. That fact that the Police were called shows that the company has failed to put in place a procedure to handle the cases where genuine error on their part has occurred.

    It appears to be that there has been some abuse of power, and I'd like to see a test criminal charge laid against the clamping company to see whether a lack of ability to rectify a situation like this in a timely manner is acceptable.

    I personally think that wrongly immobolising a vehicle and failing to promptly put it right has denied this ederly man his freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marnie View Post
    Parking permits
    CCS Disability Action issues Mobility Parking Permits to people with specified disabilities. These permits are recognised under territorial authority bylaws as a permit for parking in marked accessible car parks on land and roads owned or administered by the territorial authority. Cars not displaying the permit may be given parking infringement notices or towed away.Accessible car parks on private land, such as at a supermarket, are not subject to Mobility Parking Permits unless the property owner specifies that they must be displayed. In this case, the sign at the park would say ?a Mobility Parking Permit is necessary.

    http://www.dbh.govt.nz/accessible-carparks
    I'm not sure what you're trying to say here Marnie. There's nothing about the clamping issue.

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    Im curious as to if the clamp scratches the rim, can you then charge them for willful damage of property?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    There is obvisouly a lot of people abusing parking which is why such a business exists.

    From the information presented (and only one side is presented) it seems an error of judgement has been made on behalf of the clampers. That fact that the Police were called shows that the company has failed to put in place a procedure to handle the cases where genuine error on their part has occurred.

    It appears to be that there has been some abuse of power, and I'd like to see a test criminal charge laid against the clamping company to see whether a lack of ability to rectify a situation like this in a timely manner is acceptable.

    I personally think that wrongly immobolising a vehicle and failing to promptly put it right has denied this ederly man his freedom.
    I agree with what Oneofsix wrote earlier.

    These guys are scum and work to their own rules exactly because they are not covered by law.

    Also, from what I read, the article did present both sides of the issue and it would be interesting to see how a case could be brought to criminal trial when it is a civil matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendonjw View Post
    Im curious as to if the clamp scratches the rim, can you then charge them for willful damage of property?
    I believe it has been successfully done

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    Don't you mean that there is obviously a more profitable way to extract money from people through clamping which is why a business exists.
    So what happens is a person with a car park on private land can take out a contract with a company to remove un-authorised vehicles. That company then makes money from removing/clamping vehicles in from the car park on private land that the land owner does not want there.

    The business only exists because of the level of abuse of those car parks on private land. If the land owners didn't need to take out the contracts such a business would not eixst.

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    People arent complaining about the existence of clampers but the way they go about their business; preying on the elderly and disabled, intimidation and the times when it is not obvious that it is private land.
    Alot of the time people know they are taking a risk of getting clamped and you dont hear these people complaining. I have been clamped before but i knew i was taking the risk of not paying for parking as i didnt have cash with me, I didnt complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    OK, here's what you do if you get clamped. Dont ring the clampers.

    Ring a tow taxi or something. Get them to pick up your car and take it to your house and drop it off there. THEN ring the clamping company and say "come and remove this clamp, or I will gas axe the thing off. You have two hours to get your arse here and do that. If you dont do it I will remove the clamp myself."

    Any subsequent claim by them for clamping fees you can say "Thats fine, see you in Court mofo". Since the clamp is evidence, I will retain that to exhibit in the proceedings, after I have removed it".
    seems a bit pointless to me......whats a tow taxi gonna end up costing?...................have battery powered sabre saw or grinder...........will travel.............i have told my daughter if she ever gets clamped to ring me...........then ignore me and deny all knowledge of my identity when i show up and cut the clamp off the car acting as a sympathetic member of the community..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    The business only exists because of the level of abuse of those car parks on private land. If the land owners didn't need to take out the contracts such a business would not eixst.
    If freeing up car park space is all the land owner wants, surely there is a better way than immobilising the cars in those spaces? as OO6 says, clamping just happens to be the most profitable, you have to pay the exorbitant fee before you can use your car again, and once paid, is a lot harder to get back (and less motivation) than the traditional parking tickets. One could ask the question, do the clampers pay land owners a cut?

    As an aside, do the land owners have to inform the public that their car might be clamped/towed for illegal parking? As it seems to me it is seizure of property when clamped/towed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    As an aside, do the land owners have to inform the public that their car might be clamped/towed for illegal parking? As it seems to me it is seizure of property when clamped/towed.
    Im pretty sure they dont. Of one the few times the issue comes up on the news im pretty sure they said they dont need to put up any signs indicating its a tow away area.

    Imagine if someone parked on your lawn for a week so you got it towed then they sued you for not putting up signs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asher View Post
    Im pretty sure they dont. Of one the few times the issue comes up on the news im pretty sure they said they dont need to put up any signs indicating its a tow away area.

    Imagine if someone parked on your lawn for a week so you got it towed then they sued you for not putting up signs
    There is no legal requirement for signage. However, the landowner may find it very difficult to claim a release fee if there are no signs.

    They can then only claim under "distress damage feasant" which comes from a very old law to do with livestock trespass and is a court matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    So what happens is a person with a car park on private land can take out a contract with a company to remove un-authorised vehicles. That company then makes money from removing/clamping vehicles in from the car park on private land that the land owner does not want there.

    The business only exists because of the level of abuse of those car parks on private land. If the land owners didn't need to take out the contracts such a business would not eixst.
    Clampers negotiate territories and carparks, bundle them together and sell of the rights as businesses.

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    Get your own wheel clamp and clamp the wheel clampers vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timber020 View Post
    Get your own wheel clamp and clamp the wheel clampers vehicle.
    Better yet discretely chain their diff to something sturdy and giving them enough slack to gain abit of speed before it tightens.

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    There was a case on fairgo a few weeks back where there were a lot of complaints about clamping in a carpark near a group of shops in auckland. The fines were OTT and when the fairgo guys went to talk to one of the shop owners they seemed scared to say anything against the clampers. I got the impression they were frightened of them which makes me wonder if there are some dodgy clampers out there running some sort of protection racket. Just a feeling I got is all.
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