your proposition does not support your conclusion.Originally Posted by Tigadee
As a secular humanist, I find that to be offensive.
Remember, all the best despots are religious. All the best hate is church hate. All the good wars are religious.
"channellling the Pleideans"
your proposition does not support your conclusion.
As a secular humanist, I find that to be offensive.
Remember, all the best despots are religious. All the best hate is church hate. All the good wars are religious.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Oppan Biker Style
Noted. Apology is in the mail...
Were religious, were... Nowadays, they're just dictators from Amin to Pol Pot to Kim (not Dotcom) to Kony.
Nationalism and even environmentalism are a religion in their own right, with fervor matching that of the religious. And wars are often started under the guise of religion or nationalism ("for God and country/fatherland/motherland/mother earth!") by men who were less than religious, but in this day and age, it's easier to see through that, which is why we don't have propoganda like we used to see in WW II and states like Iran and N Korea try hard to keep the world away from its citizens.
The fact that religion is used as an excuse for war or strife or terror does not necessarily mean that religion is bad, it only shows that Man can be bad to twist something good for his own purposes. I like the title of an X-Men comic novel which is very apt: "God Saves, Man Kills".
Now I'll stop this line of thought before we go off-topic...
Responsibility good, apathy baaaaaad...
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Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behaviour does.
Ducatisti
No government requires a certain part of the population to be unemployed, utter rubbish! Believe what you will.....but in our current climate the economic model needs to be rethought!I wish they wouldn't have so many kids too, but there will always be bludgers as it is an integral part of keeping a handle on inflation. In other words, the government require a certain percentage of their population to be unemployed. Look it up for yourself. Ideally they shouldn't be having kids, granted, but as their unemployment is a requirement of the govt, if they do decide to have children, then the children should be supported in every single way and not penalised because of the choice of career their parents made. Someone has to be unemployed, there is no way around that and as we know it isn't a glamorous lifestyle... themselves are just people who "choose" the career of not working, which also happens to be a requirement for a stable economy. Win Win, but please feel free to tell them they aren't entitled to anything because they don't work
Children should be supported in every way, but this starts at home first, with a loving, caring and nurturing upbringing with good role models. This is unfortunately not always happening.
So instead of these kids growing up as career criminals, drug dealers, sex offenders, gang members etc, if you can stop a few of them being born and costing us further down the line the better.
Ideally in a perfect world you could teach these people restraint and common sense but we know thats not going to happen anytime soon!
Its like teaching cage drivers how to drive properly!!
If you don't contribute to society by way of paying taxes, then unfortunately you shouldn't expect everything that willing members of society are offered!
Otherwise there is no incentive to better yourself.
Viva La Figa
Forum whore
It could be worse.
http://rt.com/news/egypt-sex-dead-wife-054/
i'm motarded
Atleast the camels will get a break now.
Oppan Biker Style
FFS! Nutters are everywhere!
For six hours anyway...
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Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behaviour does.
Slapper?
Why not simply get rid of the ridiculous working for families rubbish,might stem the flow somewhat not to mention put a halt on taxpayers money being used to pay off cars etc.
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
Hardcore Biker
No you are right, it is businessess which benefit most from having a higher level of unemployment, and if those business leaders just happen to be cosy with the politicians...
Just out of interest, what is it that you believe "our current climate" to be?
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Aio ki te Aorangi
I'll try to hunt out the RBNZ doco later... it's linked into the site somewhere. So believe what you will. I pretty much agree with the rest of your post though
... apart from the incentive bit.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
Don't forget to bring a towel
Dead chicks don't say no.
Hardcore Biker
Oh goody the start of a state controlled breeding system.
I'm not totaly against it so long as it only aplies to somebody else.
sem fiddy pilot
If you can't feed em, don't breed em.....
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Semi-retired
Haven't read through the thread fully. but i read somewhere in the article saying the contraception is giving people choice to have kids or not.
Isn't it great? people don't 'choose' to have sex anymore, its 'gonna happen' so how do we fix the result? It's a bit Ambulance at the bottom of the cliff if you ask me. Promoting another generation of people to not take responsibility for their actions.
After all they could you know, think about what the result could be and not have sex?...
Also there are contraceptive methods that work very well that are free and many couples have been using it for years with success
Why should i pay for people who don't take responsibility for the potential results of their actions?
Aio ki te Aorangi
"In an economy, policy changes are about tradeoffs. With inflation the tradeoff is with unemployment. The Phillips curve, pioneered by New Zealand economist Bill Phillips, showed that when inflation rises unemployment falls and vice versa.
High levels of inflation are undesirable. However, if inflation is reduced by choking economic growth, this will lead to a rise in unemployment. Mass unemployment is also undesirable. Hence the RBNZ is charged with the delicate task of balancing inflation and unemployment."
Unemployment is a requirement, otherwise everyone's money becomes worth less. The unemployed are doing you a favour by filling those positions... but by all means don't change your mind
Slapper?
Its New Zealand,nobody has to take responsibility for there actions as theres an army of otherwise unemployable do gooders to pick up the pieces combined with an Emu like stance on the money tree...
Be the person your dog thinks you are...
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