For the new riders and learners - A twist of the wrist 2

[Katman]

Although it may be themed around racing and going fast there is a lot of good information that relates to riding safely on the road.

Ok, now we're getting somewhere.

A tutorial for new/learner riders should ignore the first half of that sentence and concentrate solely on the second half.

[Scream]

Ok, now we're getting somewhere.

A tutorial for new/learner riders should ignore the first half of that sentence and concentrate solely on the second half.

I think the point of the video is that it can cater to more than just learners, whilst still catering for learners.
Thread title is misleading.

[Ruahine]

(I have the digital copys, fantastic reading!, even have them on my phone in-case I'm ever stuck in a doc's office etc and want to have an interesting read)


Ride safe KBers

Willy

Thanks for that.

I see there are two Twist of the Wrist books. Is version II an update on Version I or are they both worthwhile?

[Asher]

Ok, now we're getting somewhere.

A tutorial for new/learner riders should ignore the first half of that sentence and concentrate solely on the second half.

Are you arguing the content of a book before you have even read it?


I watched the video after about 2 weeks of owning a bike and it helped heaps, sure some of it was well advanced for me like racing lines but it also covers counter steering and survival reactions that many learners dont know but should.

[jamov13]

If the discussion topic is about new riders becoming safer or faster, then perhaps the learning process should be considered.

It could be broken down like this:

1. Remembering. (Getting it in the learners head)
2. Understanding. (Coming to grips with the knowledge/knowing why)
3. Applying. (The goal for most, riding safer/faster)
4. Analising. (Challenging and improving the current knowledge base)

I'm a new rider and I found the info valuable. The posted vid's on YouTube opened my eyes to the fact that I'm not so hot on a bike; that help is out there; and that it's an on going, fun process to learn. It didn't suddenly send me out on the street wanting to race through the corners, in fact the opposite.

I think new riders should be exposed to the correct techniques from the get go (including a look at the advanced stuff. That's important).

My learning revolved around what the law told me to do. Riding around on my own sort of masked some bad habits that I had picked up due to teaching myself, and it also masked a few good habits I had. When I switched to a bigger bike I soon discovered what worked and what didn't (at my own peril). I also missed a lot without knowing it, and misunderstood a lot too (highlighted by the dvd/books).

Each to there own i guess - but if new riders don't get exposed to higher knowledge: Whats the alternative? Trial and error?

[willytheekid]

That's great to hear.

Doesn't change the fact that I don't see Keith Code's tutorials as being particularly suited to new or learner riders.

(But bear in mind, I only struggled to about half way through part 1 before giving up on them).

Gidday KM

I honestly Thought you would love this series mate.
Keith Code is the founder of the California Superbike School, he is one of the most respected motorcycle instructors on the planet! (he taught Wayne Rainey!)
This series of books teaches the "Mechanics & Physics" of motorcycling
YES, it is angled at the road & track racer....But (And you will like this one), Keiths golden rule for learning is "Never exceed 75% of your abilitys"....he believes in NOT pushing the envelope, or trying to be fast...his philosophy is control and understanding.

I urge you to give the books a try (I would be MORE than happy to send you copys mate)....if you read them, I promise you will like the content, and may even learn a whole lot more than you thought was possible

I shared this and recommended them for learners for a reason, Keith explains the physics of motorcycling better than anyone else!....and that understanding can ONLY lead to safer riding.

yell if you want copies mate

[Katman]

YES, it is angled at the road & track racer....

Trouble is, too many learner motorcyclists just can't wait be just like Rossi and can't see the distinction between the road and the track.....

But (And you will like this one), Keiths golden rule for learning is "Never exceed 75% of your abilitys"....he believes in NOT pushing the envelope, or trying to be fast...his philosophy is control and understanding.

.....and plenty of them have scant regard for 'golden rules'.

[willytheekid]

Thanks for that.

I see there are two Twist of the Wrist books. Is version II an update on Version I or are they both worthwhile?

Hi Ruahine

Twist of the Wrist: -The Motorcycle Roadracers Handbook
A Twist of the Wrist 2: The Basics of High-Performance Motorcycle Riding

Yes, both are very similar. (and cover the same topics to be honest)

[Katman]

Well, I'm slowly trying to wade through the books.

So far, all I'm seeing is instruction that is guaranteed to turn out the likes of Grantman - who sees very section of winding public road as an opportunity to try getting from A to B the fastest they possibly can and usually ending up underneath a truck coming the other way.

[Katman]

Learner riders, forget Twist of the Wrist - get this book instead.



It will go considerably further in keeping you alive on public roads than Twist of the Wrist ever well.

[pritch]

Learner riders, forget Twist of the Wrist - get this book instead.

I have most of the "how to ride" books currently available, and some that aren't. Some are from an earlier time and are written by people like Jeff Smith, Sammy Miller and Mike Hailwood etc. If I could only have one book though that Police Handbook would be on my shortlist. It is also, as Katman says, probably the most appropriate text for a beginner.

On a previous occasion when there was a thread on KB giving details as to how to download the book TOTW2 without payment, a Code family member posted to remind all and sundry that if you want to read it you should buy it.

He wasn't wrong.

[R-Soul]

Thanks for that.

I see there are two Twist of the Wrist books. Is version II an update on Version I or are they both worthwhile?

The first is a bit ramblinag nd all over teh show. More for racing - cornering lines etc. The second is much better for both road and track.

[R-Soul]

Well, I'm slowly trying to wade through the books.

So far, all I'm seeing is instruction that is guaranteed to turn out the likes of Grantman - who sees very section of winding public road as an opportunity to try getting from A to B the fastest they possibly can and usually ending up underneath a truck coming the other way.

Do teh TOTW II first - the first book is a bit rambling and ore aimed at racers. The second one is the best.

[R-Soul]

I'm sure there is benefit within the book. I'm just not convinced that such an accelerated learning process is ideal for learner riders.

And quite frankly, anyone who evens refers to 'chicken strips' is a dickhead - let alone someone who uses the ridicule of them as the introduction to their riding tutorial.

The video makes it clear that with goo dcontrol, chicken strips mean nothing - you can lose your chicken strips in a parking lot at low speed too.

[Ruahine]

The first is a bit ramblinag nd all over teh show. More for racing - cornering lines etc. The second is much better for both road and track.

Cheers man. I will check it out.