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    So give the twins a displacement advantage?
    why?
    they created BEARS so people on these kinds of bike could race didnt they?

    if you want to race in te 600's. buy a fucking 600. dont buy a bike with 248 more cc's, then bitch that you want to race but cant - shoulda thought about that when you were looking for your bike.

    Whats next? racing 400s in prolight because youd get spanked in F2? fuckoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    So give the twins a displacement advantage?
    why?
    they created BEARS so people on these kinds of bike could race didnt they?

    if you want to race in te 600's. buy a fucking 600. dont buy a bike with 248 more cc's, then bitch that you want to race but cant - shoulda thought about that when you were looking for your bike.

    Whats next? racing 400s in prolight because youd get spanked in F2? fuckoff
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    Meathead coments , just remember "This is good for the class" there is no machine advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    So give the twins a displacement advantage?
    why?
    they created BEARS so people on these kinds of bike could race didnt they?

    if you want to race in te 600's. buy a fucking 600. dont buy a bike with 248 more cc's, then bitch that you want to race but cant - shoulda thought about that when you were looking for your bike.

    Whats next? racing 400s in prolight because youd get spanked in F2? fuckoff
    Bears ain't a National class.

    SBK allows 1200cc + V twins already

    Superlite/F3 allows 650 V twins

    Supersport/F2 had already allowed 750 V twins, they don't make 'em anymore so am assuming this is natural progression.

    And if they prove too good, they'll just restrict them in some form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
    Meathead coments , just remember "This is good for the class" there is no machine advantage.
    Doesn't matter how often I repeat that mantra I'll still think you're full of shit and with an axe to grind.
    Last edited by carbonhed; 19th May 2012 at 11:03. Reason: Over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    So give the twins a displacement advantage?
    You do realise that even at WSBK level they did the same

    If it puts a more varied mix of bikes on the grid then it's all good
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    So give the twins a displacement advantage?
    why?
    they created BEARS so people on these kinds of bike could race didnt they?

    if you want to race in te 600's. buy a fucking 600. dont buy a bike with 248 more cc's, then bitch that you want to race but cant - shoulda thought about that when you were looking for your bike.

    Whats next? racing 400s in prolight because youd get spanked in F2? fuckoff
    Have a look in the MNZ rule book, I don't think you'll find a "the 600's" class. MNZ have created classes and a variety of bikes fit within those classes, now they are simply looking at extending that variety. As TonyOK says, 650 twins race against 450cc IL4's, 300cc 2 strokes in other classes so the more merrier I reckon.

    If the 848 proves dominant then look at the problem, but don't knock it before it's even been tried. With our goat tracks I doubt the 848 will have much of an advantage if any over the more agile 600's.

    Personally I'd extend the cc limit to 853 so a popular conversion of the old 748's can be included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    So give the twins a displacement advantage?
    why?
    they created BEARS so people on these kinds of bike could race didnt they?

    if you want to race in te 600's. buy a fucking 600. dont buy a bike with 248 more cc's, then bitch that you want to race but cant - shoulda thought about that when you were looking for your bike.

    Whats next? racing 400s in prolight because youd get spanked in F2? fuckoff

    Whats the difference of the early ninties superbikes ducati vs inline four nothings changed! what about buell 1125r in f2 supersport in daytona,Itl be great to see some euro bikes in the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    You do realise that even at WSBK level they did the same

    If it puts a more varied mix of bikes on the grid then it's all good
    how is pandering to a manufacturer good?
    if ducati wanted to race in those fields they should have made a 600 il4. or a V4. hell make a triple even, who cares what config they use.

    its a matter on constant rule changes to allow people to do what ever they want rather than accept the rules, and race within in existing class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    how is pandering to a manufacturer good?
    if ducati wanted to race in those fields they should have made a 600 il4. or a V4. hell make a triple even, who cares what config they use.

    its a matter on constant rule changes to allow people to do what ever they want rather than accept the rules, and race within in existing class.
    So Triumph 675's should be excluded too?

    Twins have pretty much always had a capacity advantage as they don't make the same HP, same reason the 675 is allowed, and the SV650 is in Superlite/F3.

    More bikes on the grids at NZ Nationals can't be a bad thing?

    The current rules say nothing about having to be a 600 I4, this proposed rule change only applies to Nats at the moment, clubs dont have to follow.
    Supersport engine capacity:
    501cc – 600cc 4-stroke 4 cylinders maximum
    601cc – 675cc 4-stroke 3 cylinders maximum (including 750V twins)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
    Meathead coments , just remember "This is good for the class" there is no machine advantage.
    Who the fuck are you? I ask because of the finality in your statement. How the fuck do you know there is no machine advantage? According to the literature, a pipe, filter, and ECU gets them huge gains in power.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.OK View Post
    Bears ain't a National class.


    And if they prove too good, they'll just restrict them in some form.
    Then why not make B.E.A.rs a nationals class.

    Oh yeah, MNZ are fuckin slow on the uptake bro, if these things are too good, they'll have advantage for three years minimum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post

    If it puts a more varied mix of bikes on the grid then it's all good
    Why? Do all racers have to pay the price for Euro bikes not being able to compete on the same playing field?

    I'm against the idea. If someone wants to compete, buy/build a bike that complies with the rules and go race it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    if ducati wanted to race in those fields they should have made a 600 il4. or a V4. hell make a triple even, who cares what config they use.
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    Why? It isn't nor has it ever been a class solely for 600/4 cylinder bikes
    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Then why not make B.E.A.rs a nationals class.
    BEARs isn't a class it is a club with multiple classes but the Northern monkeys struggle to understand that and turned it into something else
    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I'm against the idea. If someone wants to compete, buy/build a bike that complies with the rules and go race it!
    Fuck off Drew you crack head anything that gets more and varied bikes on the grid is good rather than a bunch of boring IL4 shitters that all look and sound the same
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.OK View Post
    So Triumph 675's should be excluded too?

    Twins have pretty much always had a capacity advantage as they don't make the same HP, same reason the 675 is allowed, and the SV650 is in Superlite/F3.

    More bikes on the grids at NZ Nationals can't be a bad thing?

    The current rules say nothing about having to be a 600 I4, this proposed rule change only applies to Nats at the moment, clubs dont have to follow.
    Supersport engine capacity:
    501cc – 600cc 4-stroke 4 cylinders maximum
    601cc – 675cc 4-stroke 3 cylinders maximum (including 750V twins)
    150cc should be plenty. If they don't make one, stiff fuckin shit Ducati lovers, go race superbike!

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