Isle Of Man TT article

[Fast Eddie]

...Dennis is still about, down Dunedin I think...rode with him at Ruapuna last year...he doesn't do much on tracks now...he said once he gave it away, that was it...

Choice thanks man - I might have to see if i can find him down here for a yarn, love to hear some old racing stories haha.

cheers

[Berries]

is Denis Ireland still around, i read an old article he came back to Dunedin (dunno when) to start a motorbike shop...

SPV down on Ward Street at the back of the train station. Was a Kawasaki dealer. I say was because I went past the other day and it looked closed down. Not sure if it has moved or what.

[Muppet]

Ok 229 have died in 100 years, out of how many racers and how many kilometres travelled and how many hours of practice though?

I find it ironic that Wayne Gardiner called for it to banned when he used to ride 500cc 2 stroke formula 1 motorcycles. Go and watch "Faster" narrated by Ewan MacGregor, and see what Rossi has to say about 500cc 2 strokes. Marco Simoncelli crashed and was run over by Rossi and Edwards at a MotoGP race recently, and subsequently died, how come Gardiner isn't calling for MotoGP to be banned? Professional jealousy I think.

[manxkiwi]

[QUOTE=Muppet;1130326785]Ok 229 have died in 100 years, out of how many racers and how many kilometres travelled and how many hours of practice though?

That's a stat. I like to mention too. I wouldn't be surprised if you divided the deaths into the miles covered, you would see the TT to be the safest bike race on earth (probably?). But of course, there's lies and stats. People quote the stat that best fits their side of the argument.

[GrayWolf]

I bet the smell of 2t oil was strong too, a few hundred RD 350's etc at full chat.

hahaha early 80's depending on the year I could just have been riding one of those RD350(LC)s

[GrayWolf]

Ok 229 have died in 100 years, out of how many racers and how many kilometres travelled and how many hours of practice though?

I find it ironic that Wayne Gardiner called for it to banned when he used to ride 500cc 2 stroke formula 1 motorcycles. Go and watch "Faster" narrated by Ewan MacGregor, and see what Rossi has to say about 500cc 2 strokes. Marco Simoncelli crashed and was run over by Rossi and Edwards at a MotoGP race recently, and subsequently died, how come Gardiner isn't calling for MotoGP to be banned? Professional jealousy I think.

As gets pointed out frequently.... Wayne Who? (didnt win the TT) TT winners are held in an esteem way beyond the GP Champs. Some like Dunlop, Hailwood, Surtees, Agostini etc etc have been champions in both. Some GP champs are remembered like Barry Sheene (mostly for spectacular crashing) Freddy Spencer, even Rossi may end up being a remembered GP champ.... but it isnt the Tourist Trophy.

[tigertim20]

is Denis Ireland still around, i read an old article he came back to Dunedin (dunno when) to start a motorbike shop...
Bruce Anstey is good, and Dobbs was choice rip. I guess the kiwi don't have as much cash or factory ride opportunities? dunno.. get some more kiwis over there we got talent here. I'd love to go and crash there. beats crashing here with no one watching.

TT rules - Its my favourite race/event of all time.. track/circuit racing isn't as exciting to watch

owns SPV doesnt he?
was on Ward Street, now on the corner of bridgman st in south dunedin

[tigertim20]

SPV down on Ward Street at the back of the train station. Was a Kawasaki dealer. I say was because I went past the other day and it looked closed down. Not sure if it has moved or what.

he moves aaaaages ago, bought a new building in south dunedin. Its between the Kensington tui clubrooms, and the pak n save.
Its not sign posted (or at least not very well!)

He's also selling electric bicycles as well

[ellipsis]

I bet the smell of 2t oil was strong too, a few hundred RD 350's etc at full chat.

...i seem to remember a bunch of warrior type teutonics with patches ripping past on big jappies and catching them on wiggly bits where one would be on the deck...they were very drunk i think...i also remember seeing Uriah Heep in a big place just out of Douglas and getting pissed and being a finalist in a competition to win a 750 Katana...all i had to do was ride it down three planks on trestles off the stage to the dance floor...i only made two and a bit planks...i was also drinking a vodka concoction from a wineskin with a South African chap i had just met...good memories...was there a few times... going back there would be the only reason i would willingly get on a plane to leave this country ever again...

[Fast Eddie]

he moves aaaaages ago, bought a new building in south dunedin. Its between the Kensington tui clubrooms, and the pak n save.
Its not sign posted (or at least not very well!)

He's also selling electric bicycles as well

chur, the article i was reading was from 08.. said he was opening a business here that will rent out/hire out anything that moves - from bikes to heavy machinery haha, might have to go check out his shop.

[wharfy]

Ok 229 have died in 100 years, out of how many racers and how many kilometres travelled and how many hours of practice though?

I find it ironic that Wayne Gardiner called for it to banned when he used to ride 500cc 2 stroke formula 1 motorcycles. Go and watch "Faster" narrated by Ewan MacGregor, and see what Rossi has to say about 500cc 2 strokes. Marco Simoncelli crashed and was run over by Rossi and Edwards at a MotoGP race recently, and subsequently died, how come Gardiner isn't calling for MotoGP to be banned? Professional jealousy I think.

I did that sum and posted it on here somewhere (possibly the Gardner thread) but can't find it now. Something like 26,000 miles of racing/practice over the two weeks.

Here's my take on the IOM

http://sites.google.com/site/k2racin...blog/iomtt2010

[BigAl]

I did that sum and posted it on here somewhere (possibly the Gardner thread) but can't find it now. Something like 26,000 miles of racing/practice over the two weeks.

Here's my take on the IOM

http://sites.google.com/site/k2racin...blog/iomtt2010

Great story and brings back memories Wharfy, I'm trying to get a group organised to go over next year as last visit was when Hissie won the senior on the rotary Norton.

[k14]

That's a stat. I like to mention too. I wouldn't be surprised if you divided the deaths into the miles covered, you would see the TT to be the safest bike race on earth (probably?). But of course, there's lies and stats. People quote the stat that best fits their side of the argument.

Lol, um I think not. If you want to use the previous example of motogp Simo was the first casualty since Kato in 2002. So in 9 years of MotoGP of around 18 races a season are you saying that isn't cumulatively less than 1 TT?? A MotoGP race is still 110km in distance, plus the 3 practice sessions One death is classed as a good year for the TT. It is just crazy.

IMO it is stupid and anyone that goes there needs their head read. To me there is low risk e.g. track racing, motox, even Wanganui/Paeroa that is acceptable and can be reasoned with. But at the IOMTT the risk is phenomenally greater and just defies logic. It is guaranteed that one of the guys standing around at riders briefing before the event starts is going home in a box. To me it just doesn't compute. You might as well just have a raffle at riders briefing to work out who is the "unlucky" one and then go home.

But as I said that's just my opinion.

[jellywrestler]

I find it ironic that Wayne Gardiner called for it to banned when he used to ride 500cc 2 stroke formula 1 motorcycles.

that hypocritical peice of shit has assisted the death of many people world wide with his promotion of Rothmans Cigarettes.

as for the article its full of assumptions and incorrect statistics

Long Live the Isle of Man TT

[jellywrestler]

Some GP champs are remembered like Barry Sheene (mostly for spectacular crashing)

He isn't remembered for his spectacular crashes, he's renowned for the incredible short time after his major injuries that he got back on his bikes.