Isle Of Man TT article

[Asher]

The people who go to IOM know now more than ever of the dangers and the risk involved, as long as they know that who are we to say it should/shouldnt happen.
I think those who go 300km+ through townships are some of the few people who have really lived.

I dont think IOM will ever be banned; Since the people who do die are not from the Isle, its not the Isle that looses a productive tax payer.

[Matt Bleck]

The people who go to IOM know now more than ever of the dangers and the risk involved, as long as they know that who are we to say it should/shouldnt happen.
I think those who go 300km+ through townships are some of the few people who have really lived.

I dont think IOM will ever be banned; Since the people who do die are not from the Isle, its not the Isle that looses a productive tax payer.

I think you'll find that IOM has lost citizens to the race and Connor Cummins was almost one of them also the IOM is a tax haven, ie you dont pay taxes there

[Asher]

I think you'll find that IOM has lost citizens to the race and Connor Cummins was almost one of them also the IOM is a tax haven, ie you dont pay taxes there

Good point, but thats probably why we will never see anything like the TT anywhere else in the world. Governments see people as taxables not really as people. Say at the Wanganui street races 3 people died each year, as long as they werent from NZ there is no real loss to our economy.

[Kickaha]

( Unless you also have a head injury that helps you to make wanker statements)

You were making wanker statements long before you had a head injury

[Shaun]

You were making wanker statements long before you had a head injury

True i suppose

[SWERVE]

Hey Shaun.
Just read that article in Aus MCN about young Liam. See you got a mention too, the "gingas" are teaming up eh

[manxkiwi]

I think you'll find that IOM has lost citizens to the race and Connor Cummins was almost one of them also the IOM is a tax haven, ie you dont pay taxes there

Residents still pay tax to the Manx government, it's just at different rates to elswhere. Obviously favourable to the rich. The working people of the Island are about as well off on average as anyone else in the UK. Possibly a little less, as goods tend to cost a bit more with the extra transport costs.

I don't think tax or tax paying has much to do with the racing. It exists simply because the Island has its own Government and passes its own laws. Which it did in 1907.

[Shaun]

Hey Shaun.
Just read that article in Aus MCN about young Liam. See you got a mention too, the "gingas" are teaming up eh

Yea it is a family race team as such, and they are a pleasure to work for. I am sure they and maybe 3 others will be heading out here for summer skids

[Katman]

I think some of you are over-reacting a tad.

I've re-read the article and it doesn't actually come across as anti-TT to me.

Sure, they describe it as the deadliest motorcycle race in the world - but that's hardly telling fibs, is it?

I have a great degree of respect for those taking part in the racing but also firmly believe that the inclusion of the Mad Sunday shows a cavalier attitude by the organisers that will only stand to do the event (and motorcycling as a whole) harm.

[jellywrestler]

I have a great degree of respect for those taking part in the racing but also firmly believe that the inclusion of the Mad Sunday shows a cavalier attitude by the organisers that will only stand to do the event (and motorcycling as a whole) harm.

maybe but when i was there i was warned to stay off the road at certain times cause of all the lager louts that had a beer then thought they were joey dunlop. the Mad Sunday came about to try and let people have a ride in a controlled environment, not any old time. Remember too that over the mountain there is no speed limit anyway so people were going ape on their own and with two way traffic...

As for calling it the deadliest; most people who say that don't actually note the fact it's a two week event with hundreds of competitors, they usually try an draw a comparison with say the Cemetery Circuit, one day 100 plus entrants.

apples/oranges etc

[Subike]

. Is a few hours of fast, high adrenaline bike racing really worth that?

Yes
if it is my choice to do it

[manxkiwi]

I have a great degree of respect for those taking part in the racing but also firmly believe that the inclusion of the Mad Sunday shows a cavalier attitude by the organisers that will only stand to do the event (and motorcycling as a whole) harm.

As previously stated. Mad Sunday is not an event and not 'included' in anything. It happens to be the Sunday between practice and race week. Everyone on the Island is riding around (yes some at breakneck speed!) every day. Including before and after road closure for every race and practice. In fact a big highlight is getting to your vantage point well before road closure, to watch all the bikes etc going by.

No one organises it, it's not an event. It's just one day in the fortnight with a name. You can't 'stop' it, it's just people going about their days. It's a day that traditionally doesn't have much on, in the way of organised events. So the bikers tend to ride their bikes. As you do.

Anyone who's been will know what I'm saying. Those who haven't can only speculate. It is a truly awesome thing, the TT. Long may it continue, warts and all.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

To add to manxkiwi's post;

It isn't an organised event (as stated) its the Sunday between practise week and race week that has been known as Mad Sunday, Mad because people do behave a little mad, both on the mountain and down in the towns.

The 'organisers' have attempted to make it less 'mad' by working with the police over the years and making the mountain section one way, slowing the approach to the mountain section and forcing single file entry to it if you like and ongoing education.

You ain't gong to stop Mad Sunday its part of the fortnight, perhaps not the best part admittedly. Its not just restricted to bikes either, I've been for a tootle over the mountain on Mad Sunday and come across campervans, cyclists and 'Sunday drivers' all doing their thing.

Long may the TT last, a fantastic two weeks. You should all go at least once

Those that love the event, know what its about, those that hate it or think it should be banned will never understand what its about

[Tard]

IMO it is stupid and anyone that goes there needs their head read....at the IOMTT the risk is phenomenally greater and just defies logic. But as I said that's just my opinion.

Yep, ok we get, it is only your opinion......you don't understand the racer's logic and don't agree with anyone who's opinion differs from yours. Stop trying to change their opinion!

We've just returned from our 1st IOM TT fortnight....and agree with the positive comments. No one forces McG, Anstey, Dunlop, Martin and all the not so famous to take on the ultimate road race challenge - it's THEIR choice - and most of us RESPECT them all the more for it

I guess unless you haven't been there you might not get it.

PS. I didn't get to ride the course on a bike....next time ....and no I don't have deathwish, just diff. strokes for diff. folks eh

[manxkiwi]

It seems the 'nay sayers' are quiet this year, possibly because no one died in the racing? The exception to the rule I know, but a good year in that sense at least.