LOL @ smoke tax increase!

[Laava]

, if the government deems something to be bad for you, they will try to price it out of your reach.

Yeah like motorbikes? And 4x4 utes and diesel to put in it.
Do I have to pay the govt every time I have a root as well?
Hope they take coins!

[Laava]

Two and a half years without a smoke and around $10,000 of my money that went else where...good to be able to change bikes every 2-3 years.

Snap! That what I did!

[Maha]

Snap! That what I did!

I was light smoker but it still cost me around $4K per year..rediculous shit really.

[FJRider]

I was light smoker but it still cost me around $4K per year..rediculous shit really.

I have never smoked .... and all (most of) the money I would have spent on them ... was put back into circulation ...

[Edbear]

I wonder how long before Life/Health insurance premiums will be increased ... or refused cover entirely for smokers ...

When the "I didn't know it was dangerous generation" dies out ... the changes may be radical.

Try to get life and health insurance as a smoker and you will see a lot of exclusions on your Policy Plus higher premiums.

If I had been a smoker I would not have been able to have my spinal operation and would be a paraplegic by now.

[mashman]

If I had been a smoker I would not have been able to have my spinal operation and would be a paraplegic by now.

that's because the world is effin stupid... you smoke so you shouldn't be allowed X treatment... damn I at that type of dodge of responsibility.

[Edbear]

that's because the world is effin stupid... you smoke so you shouldn't be allowed X treatment... damn I at that type of dodge of responsibility.

Not political or discriminatory, purely health related. Smoking destroys not just what is commonly understood, but your general health. Your lungs and heart are greatly affected and long periods under general anaesthetic are far more dangerous for smokers. It wrecks all major organs and even your eyes. Anyone who thinks smoking, ( anything), is not that harmful is kidding themselves.

[mashman]

Not political or discriminatory, purely health related. Smoking destroys not just what is commonly understood, but your general health. Your lungs and heart are greatly affected and long periods under general anaesthetic are far more dangerous for smokers. It wrecks all major organs and even your eyes. Anyone who thinks smoking, ( anything), is not that harmful is kidding themselves.

So it's alright to allow the person to become a paraplegic and drain the health service even further because they're a smoker... in the words of John Mcenroe, you cannot be serious?

[Edbear]

So it's alright to allow the person to become a paraplegic and drain the health service even further because they're a smoker... in the words of John Mcenroe, you cannot be serious?

Sorry I can only go by what the Doc's and surgeon say. I would think they know a thing or two about it...

[Winston001]

Try to get life and health insurance as a smoker and you will see a lot of exclusions on your Policy Plus higher premiums.

+1. Exactly. Medical insurance and life insurance premiums have been loaded against smokers for decades now. Nothing new.

[mashman]

Sorry I can only go by what the Doc's and surgeon say. I would think they know a thing or two about it...

I'm not saying they don't, but it's madness to leave someone in a chair just because they smoke... especially when they've paid more towards the health service than most, even if the others have their shitty diets and poor lifestyle choices.

[Edbear]

+1. Exactly. Medical insurance and life insurance premiums have been loaded against smokers for decades now. Nothing new.

Yup. I was in the insurance industry specialising in life and health insurance. Most smokers were dismayed by what they couldn't have and how much more it cost them to get less. Many said they were going to quit on that basis alone.

[Edbear]

I'm not saying they don't, but it's madness to leave someone in a chair just because they smoke... especially when they've paid more towards the health service than most, even if the others have their shitty diets and poor lifestyle choices.

Just goes to show how seriously bad smoking is...

[Andy67]

This hoary old fallacious argument assumes that there is no cost associated with tobacco, other than what smokers spend on their habits with the proceeds of those being shared by retailers, tobacco companies and the Government.

One in five smokers will die from smoking-related causes. That would be just fine if those were clean and tidy deaths at no cost to the taxpayers who fund the medical expenses associated with what are often long and costly illnesses. Then there are the people who aren't smokers but whose health is munted by passive smoking.

Without any of these consequences, then tobacco products probably would most certainly be a cash cow for graspingly desperate politicians.

We all die mate. Some more gracefully than others. Heart disease and lung cancer can kill at very small cost to the taxpayer.know it all prick.

[mashman]

Just goes to show how seriously bad smoking is...

troll.