LOL @ smoke tax increase!

[Road kill]

Maybe I'm just not too bright but I would never take up smoking and even back when it was de rigeur I couldn't stand the horrible smelly things and the dangers of smoking were known 40 years ago.

I have tremendous sympathy for addicts who want to quit as I know first hand the nightmare that is drug addiction and the living hell it is to get off them.

Coupled with the addictiveness of Nicotine, which the manufacturers load them with to the limits of the law, is that smoking is a habit and it is said that it takes six weeks to break a habit. This also leads to irritability so a double whammy to deal with.

Smoking is not a habit,it's an addiction.
You can break a habit over night,,,like driving on the left hand side of the road,,we can change the moment we vist a country that drives on the right hand side.
And once again,,the big companys do not add nicotine and I'd love to see any evidence that there's any limit to the amount of nicotine that a ciggy can contain.
Your pretty good at not addressing things you don't have a pat answer to arn't you.
Just another junkie pointing their finger at the other side of the fence while they stick their own head in the sand..

[Edbear]

Smoking is not a habit,it's an addiction.
You can break a habit over night,,,like driving on the left hand side of the road,,we can change the momment we vist a country that drives on the right hand side.
And once again,,the big companys do not add nicotine and I'd love to see any evidence that there's any limit to the amount of nicotine that a ciggy can contain.
Anyway this is a pointless conversation while you continue to make up stuff about companys loading nicotine into tabacco,,,while claiming to be too bright for one when you were hooked on another.
Just more 50's style bullshit to justify your opinion.
Bye.

It was a Doctor who prescribed the very powerful painkiller I became addicted to and I was not monitored well enough while on it leading to being on the maximum dose for years rather than the two weeks now recommended. I thought I had said it was a prescription drug, or did you miss that? I will post the references on Nicotine, I don't make stuff up.

[Edbear]

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publication...bacco-products

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14576260...tes-years-ago/

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/pre...s01182007.html "In an opinion in US vs. Philip Morris USA et. al. Judge Gladys Kessler wrote that tobacco companies "can and do control the level of nicotine delivered in order to create and sustain addiction" and further, that the "goal to ensure that their products deliver sufficient nicotine to create and sustain addiction influences their selection and combination of design parameters."

[Edbear]

http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/pagescm/1003/$File/chemicalconstituentscigarettespriorities.pdf

http://journal.nzma.org.nz/journal/1...07/content.pdf

It appears Road Kill is correct in that there does not seem to be any current regulations in NZ as regards nicotine levels but the Govt. is considering it as part of the proposals put forward by such as the organisations I have posted the links to.

It is clear, however that tobacco companies have been increasing the levels of nicotine.

[Edbear]

http://www.nsma.org.au/facts/thirdwld.htm


http://www.scribd.com/doc/52181071/T...orld-Countries

"Higher tar and nicotine cigarettes in the Third World"

I might stop now...

[mashman]

And in the news... Smokers 1 - Non-Smokers 0

[Usarka]

It was a Doctor who prescribed the very powerful painkiller I became addicted to and I was not monitored well enough while on it leading to being on the maximum dose for years rather than the two weeks now recommended.

I think that's called blaming others and not taking responsibility for your own actions.

[FJRider]

And in the news... Smokers 1 - Non-Smokers 0

To say smokers are winners ... is like saying ... getting 2nd place in a war is still ok.

[Edbear]

I think that's called blaming others and not taking responsibility for your own actions.

On the very contrary, while specialist after specialist, including four Neurologists could not explain the cause of my symptoms, I spent months in my own study and research and eventually discovered that rather than having a neurological disease it was the drug causing them. After presenting my findings to my GP he agreed and worked out a withdrawal program for me. The program was to take 8 months, I did it in 5.

Since then, the potential long term side effects have been made known and the drug is now only prescribed for short term use. It was not the first time, nor the last that I have worked with medical specialists and Doctors by doing extensive study and research myself and discussed my findings with them.

I do not blame others for the choices I make and while applying for Medical Mishap, I did not apply for Medical Misadventure as the Doctor who prescribed the drug was genuinely trying to do his best for me. I was surprised that four Neurologists failed to pick up on the drugs side effects but then they were trying to find a neurological disease. I always research treatments and medications that I am unfamiliar with and take responsibility for my health.

You seem happy to accuse me of all sorts of negative stuff without having a clue who I am or what I have experienced.

[ducatilover]

It annoys people who don't grasp the concept that man is free to do what he wants. It benefits me no end

Couldn't agree more.
I do things that'll probably kill me before smoking.
What's with this stupid mortal sentimentality? Burn everyone.

[mashman]

To say smokers are winners ... is like saying ... getting 2nd place in a war is still ok.

Aye, because smokers are a special breed of people that are entirely different to non-smokers and therefore cannot be winners.

Couldn't agree more.
I do things that'll probably kill me before smoking.
What's with this stupid mortal sentimentality? Burn everyone.

You gotta squeeze every minute out of your life... which is why they invented the antiques roadshow and shortland street to keep them entertained til the grave.

[willytheekid]

probably the one reason more 'discreet' is the numbers involved. If 90% of thr population drink, less than 50% now smoke... you suckers are now a minority.
Passive smoking DOES affect peoples health, both my parents smoked and as a kid I was always coughing and 'wheezy', funny thing is when they sent me to boarding school for 4.5 yrs it bloody disappeared. I no longer have to endure the smell of smoke in a pub, or restaurant, or cinema, and roll on when it is no longer legal to smoke in ANY public area. Even 'light' smokers do not realise how offensive the stench is when you pick up an item of clothing you wore 'yesterday' and can smell the reek of smokers on it.

Double the price overnight!!!! 10% every 4 yrs just gives the addicts time to 'adjust' to the increase...

Actually even as a light smoker I DO actually realize how offensive it is, hence I don't smoke in public or around others...but as usual on here, it is Soo nice of you to judge me and label me a sucker!, but I think...

...of my previous post.

I completely understand your personal opinion and view towards smoking, and agree to your right to be able to breathe fresh air

...but what about my rights?...and my personal choices?...say on my own property and in my own company?
Or is it alright to take personal rights and freedom of choice off the minority just to please you!...the majority??

I personally believe in education respecting the rights of others and being able to make my own choices...even it you don't personally agree with it....its called tolerance and understanding...your chosen way is called oppression!

...this issue isn't just about health!...but you will learn that in the next tens years or so.

Ride Safe GrayWolf...it is after all, dangerous, costs the health system & taxpayer and we too are a minority remember...just ask ACC, they already have the "figures".

[Maha]

''freedom of choice'' should be devoid when it has an undesireable affect on others or those around you.

[Berries]

Like riding a bike then, as has been pointed out earlier. Bloody death traps.

[Bad Biker]

Stopped smoking 1 month ago (again) for no other reason than I want to quit.

I have done a lot of things in my life some not especially proud of but starting smoking is the one thing I regret - things you do to look cool when your young