LOL @ smoke tax increase!

[Nzpure]

I wonder if the government has made plans on what to do once none of us can afford to smoke or worse they make it illegal in NZ?
I mean 10% increase per year over 4 years is going to raise something like 1.4billion dollars......How much a year do they make from smoke tax already.
Just a thought.

[mashman]

We'll start growing our own, or at least star chipping in with mates who have the space to grow it for us, then we'll give it away to other friends etc... they'll lose the revenue and then they'll have to ban smoking... at which point I'll larf and larf and smoke where no one can see me.

[Gremlin]

Remember that smoking does cost the country in health related illnesses. However, that's going to be a long term cost saving.

It does also show, if the government deems something to be bad for you, they will try to price it out of your reach.

[Nzpure]

Remember that smoking does cost the country in health related illnesses. However, that's going to be a long term cost saving.

It does also show, if the government deems something to be bad for you, they will try to price it out of your reach.

Yes, However the cost of smoking related illness in NZ is around $250 million. The revenue gained from ciggarette taxation per year prior to the tax increases recently and future increases was $1.6 billion. Doubt my figures google it. So the net profit from ciggarette taxation is around $1.3 billion. Even if the government is saving 250 mil from banning smoking its still going to be 1.3bil in the hole.

[blackdog]

We'll start growing our own, or at least star chipping in with mates who have the space to grow it for us, then we'll give it away to other friends etc... they'll lose the revenue and then they'll have to ban smoking... at which point I'll larf and larf and smoke where no one can see me.

Yup, seeds have been ordered. I will borrow a rotary hoe next weekend for a plot out the back.

[FJRider]

I wonder if the government has made plans on what to do once none of us can afford to smoke or worse they make it illegal in NZ?
I mean 10% increase per year over 4 years is going to raise something like 1.4billion dollars......How much a year do they make from smoke tax already.
Just a thought.

If it's any easier ... just think of the extra cost as an ACC levy on smokes ... it will seem fairer then ...

[mashman]

Yup, seeds have been ordered. I will borrow a rotary hoe next weekend for a plot out the back.

Iffen ya wanna go halfsies

[Nzpure]

If it's any easier ... just think of the extra cost as an ACC levy on smokes ... it will seem fairer then ...

You know, It really has made me feel better. lol

[Madness]

Yup, seeds have been ordered. I will borrow a rotary hoe next weekend for a plot out the back.

Grow a couple of Burleys to add to the blend for that deep, satisfying flavour

[Hitcher]

How much a year do they make from smoke tax already.
Just a thought.

This hoary old fallacious argument assumes that there is no cost associated with tobacco, other than what smokers spend on their habits with the proceeds of those being shared by retailers, tobacco companies and the Government.

One in five smokers will die from smoking-related causes. That would be just fine if those were clean and tidy deaths at no cost to the taxpayers who fund the medical expenses associated with what are often long and costly illnesses. Then there are the people who aren't smokers but whose health is munted by passive smoking.

Without any of these consequences, then tobacco products probably would most certainly be a cash cow for graspingly desperate politicians.

[FJRider]

Yes, However the cost of smoking related illness in NZ is around $250 million. The revenue gained from ciggarette taxation per year prior to the tax increases recently and future increases was $1.6 billion. Doubt my figures google it. So the net profit from ciggarette taxation is around $1.3 billion. Even if the government is saving 250 mil from banning smoking its still going to be 1.3bil in the hole.

With the price increase and the numbers quitting ... $1.6 billion will still be taken in tax.

The number people getting illness's due to cigarette's ... wont stop anytime soon. And I cant see the death rate slowing either.

And more kids will go to school hungry, because mum and(or) dad still want to have their ciggies ...

[FJRider]

This hoary old fallacious argument assumes that there is no cost associated with tobacco, other than what smokers spend on their habits with the proceeds of those being shared by retailers, tobacco companies and the Government.

One in five smokers will die from smoking-related causes. That would be just fine if those were clean and tidy deaths at no cost to the taxpayers who fund the medical expenses associated with what are often long and costly illnesses. Then there are the people who aren't smokers but whose health is munted by passive smoking.

Without any of these consequences, then tobacco products probably would most certainly be a cash cow for graspingly desperate politicians.

I wonder how long before Life/Health insurance premiums will be increased ... or refused cover entirely for smokers ...

When the "I didn't know it was dangerous generation" dies out ... the changes may be radical.

[Berries]

I stopped ten days ago. Second longest break since I started nearly thirty years ago.

AND I AM GOING TO FUCKING KILL SOMEONE SOON.

Talk about being shitty.

[Boob Johnson]

I stopped ten days ago. Second longest break since I started nearly thirty years ago.

AND I AM GOING TO FUCKING KILL SOMEONE SOON.

Talk about being shitty.

lol hang in there tiger!

[Maha]

Two and a half years without a smoke and around $10,000 of my money that went else where...good to be able to change bikes every 2-3 years.