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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    Hey, peckerhead.... everything in aviation is imperial...
    Except Aermacchi MB339CB's, AW109's and NH90's and that is just aircraft in the RNZAF in recent times.... ;-)

    But yes, we have to convert the boys to feet and inches. Amazing how quick they learn whe you put the tool board further away

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickbuck View Post
    Except Aermacchi MB339CB's, AW109's and NH90's and that is just aircraft in the RNZAF in recent times.... ;-)

    But yes, we have to convert the boys to feet and inches. Amazing how quick they learn whe you put the tool board further away
    And the Walter engine I flew about 8000 hours behind. Imperial is the RECOGNISED unit of measure in aviation, then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    Imperial is the RECOGNISED unit of measure in aviation, then!
    Was and still is if the US has anything to do with it. If its got a European input, namely French or German, then it's metric.

    Of course it gets really fun when you get a European airframe with US engines

    Lock pliers are the easy way but you can do just as good a job with your hands and a pair of ordinary pliers. If you want a simple tool for getting into the hard to reach places get an old screwdriver, cut the tip off and drill two holes just large enough for your wire at an angle through the end. Thread the wire through the holes, slide the tool up the wire to where you want the twists to end, hold a bit of tension on the loose ends to stop the wire from slipping through and twist away.

    Has the benefit of not marking the wire, reducing the risk of it breaking after you have sweated buckets and ripped your hands apart getting a nice bit of chain locking done. DAMHIKIJKOK.
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    I don't think you'll have much joy finding metric measured lockwire.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    I don't think you'll have much joy finding metric measured lockwire.....
    Here or the US I agree but it's common in Europe.

    Naff all difference really, shall I use 0.8mm (0.0315") or 0.032"? You going to measure it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    Hey, peckerhead.... everything in aviation is imperial...
    Dont call me your mothers son

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scruffygit View Post
    Here or the US I agree but it's common in Europe.

    Naff all difference really, shall I use 0.8mm (0.0315") or 0.032"? You going to measure it?
    .025 is adequate. Lockwire isn't actually supposed to be the fastener!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    .025 is adequate. Lockwire isn't actually supposed to be the fastener!
    There is not much chance of that on most examples I have seen on race bikes......
    But yeah, it this marely there in case the torque comes off the fastner, and it starts to come out (I realise you know this pussy, that is for the benifit for those that don't).

    I do have some 0.040" in the tool box, but that is used for many other things, and not often wire locking....
    You can twist it togther and it maikes an awesome pick to get the stupid lint filter out of the middle of the agitator of the washing machine....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    .025 is adequate.
    Bikes or aircraft?

    Bikes - happy to agree, aircraft - diameter and type to be used is fairly rigidly controlled dependant on the application.

    Then again this is a bike forum so I guess I've just answered my own question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scruffygit View Post
    Bikes or aircraft?

    Bikes - happy to agree, aircraft - diameter and type to be used is fairly rigidly controlled dependant on the application.

    Then again this is a bike forum so I guess I've just answered my own question.
    You're right, you have answered your own question... and it is a bike forum

    Aircraft, it is as specified in the relevant maintenance Manual.
    It ranges from 0.020", 0.032" to 0.040" on the Iroquois, and all other American Aircraft...
    It was the Brits, and their fantastic (sic) Rolls Royce Viper where I first saw 0.025" used.

    It is probably more common in other applications... that I have had seen (only really worked on 6 Aircraft types myself).... I can imagine it is the new 0.032" for most lighter aircraft....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodger96 View Post
    Torpedo7 there cheap as chips and are made in the same factory as my $125 ones!
    Like these?

    http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T...r---wire-combo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    I don't think you'll have much joy finding metric measured lockwire.....
    Might be hard to get........

    http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T...l--0-7mm-x-8m-

    Dam fangled metric, its just a fad and it will never catch on

    The gearbox plug has a 1.5mm hole, was going to drill it 1/16 to make it imperial, then I noticed it said 500ml oil for the gearbox, Bugger.............................I got around that tho, I filled it with 53/64 of a pint
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    My aircraft engineering experience is limited to various light aircraft (mostly Cessnas and Pipers), lots on the FU 24, Metroliner and Saab 340. Every piece of aviation sourced lockwire I have used on these machines has been imperial measured. I would say it will be many years before imperial is phased out on aircraft.
    As far as pliers go.... get some Milbar ones. Will last a lifetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
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    torpedo 7, cheap as and they work mint

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickbuck View Post
    You're right, you have answered your own question... and it is a bike forum

    Aircraft, it is as specified in the relevant maintenance Manual.
    Or AC 43-13B if not specified, ie most GA puddle jumpers.


    Quote Originally Posted by quickbuck View Post
    It ranges from 0.020", 0.032" to 0.040" on the Iroquois, and all other American Aircraft...
    0.060" on the Chinook Jesus nuts and vertical hinge pin nuts.


    Quote Originally Posted by quickbuck View Post
    It was the Brits, and their fantastic (sic) Rolls Royce Viper where I first saw 0.025" used.
    , I resemble that comment. Specified as standard? The PT6 for me, everything else has been 0.032" as the default


    Quote Originally Posted by quickbuck View Post
    I can imagine it is the new 0.032" for most lighter aircraft....
    New? Didn't know it had changed (not being sarcastic, genuinely interested if it has). Was using it 35 years ago on Phantoms, still using it today on CV580s. Wouldn't call either of them light.


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