Asset sales

[blue rider]

just came accross this one....
the more things change the more they stay the same...

oh yeah....we are collectively fucked....

[Brian d marge]

Empires roughly have a 500 year life span , only 200 to go for the American one

Stephen

ps , the thinkers of the enlightenment flooded to America hell bent on starting a new land where the excesses of the ancien regime wouldn’t flourish, They screwed that up in less than 200 years , well done,, pat that man on the back , Job well done .

[flyingcrocodile46]

Empires roughly have a 500 year life span , only 200 to go for the American one

Stephen

ps , the thinkers of the enlightenment flooded to America hell bent on starting a new land where the excesses of the ancien regime wouldn’t flourish, They screwed that up in less than 200 years , well done,, pat that man on the back , Job well done .

The enlightened were the believers in the less popular religions of the day, who were being persecuted in their own countrys. In many cases they were promised land from states that were carved up and handed to various religious groups. That and the freedom to believe in whatever god they wanted to. However it appears that the muslims were not invited.

Unlike in their home countrys, religions recieved no handouts from the govts/kings coffers so they were granted the freedom to collect what they could Tax free. This ultimitely resulted in the eveangelistic promotion of various religions and arguably the most polished, dishonest and corrupt marketing strategies devised.

[oldrider]

The enlightened were the believers in the less popular religions of the day, who were being persecuted in their own countrys. In many cases they were promised land from states that were carved up and handed to various religious groups. That and the freedom to believe in whatever god they wanted to. However it appears that the muslims were not invited.

Unlike in their home countrys, religions recieved no handouts from the govts/kings coffers so they were granted the freedom to collect what they could Tax free. This ultimitely resulted in the eveangelistic promotion of various religions and arguably the most polished, dishonest and corrupt marketing strategies devised.

Any type of political system will work to some degree or other, that has been proven over and over throughout history!

What doesn't work (except for those that control it) is the financial system that distributes the goods and services of world society!

Currently every country in the world is up to it's ears in choking "debt" to the "financial system"! ... To whom are they actually in debt?

Quote: "Give me control of the finances of the world ... I care not who makes the laws!" Lord Rothschild, governor of the bank of England!

http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2010/0...nk-of-england/

http://the-tap.blogspot.co.nz/2010/0...f-england.html

http://voteforit.org/index.php/end-t...land-the-truth

That which is physically and technically possible as well as socially desirable and beneficial should be made financially available!

That is what the financial system is for ... it is man made and man controlled but currently for who's benefit? ... That is the real question!

[flyingcrocodile46]

Any type of political system will work to some degree or other, that has been proven over and over throughout history!

What doesn't work (except for those that control it) is the financial system that distributes the goods and services of world society!

Currently every country in the world is up to it's ears in choking "debt" to the "financial system"! ... To whom are they actually in debt?

Quote: "Give me control of the finances of the world ... I care not who makes the laws!" Lord Rothschild, governor of the bank of England!

http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2010/0...nk-of-england/

http://the-tap.blogspot.co.nz/2010/0...f-england.html

http://voteforit.org/index.php/end-t...land-the-truth

That which is physically and technically possible as well as socially desirable and beneficial should be made financially available!

That is what the financial system is for ... it is man made and man controlled but currently for who's benefit? ... That is the real question!

Yes! The Rothchilds started their play for total control of the world back in the mid 1700's

[Akzle]

The enlightened were the believers in the less popular religions of the day, who were being persecuted in their own countrys. In many cases they were promised land from states that were carved up and handed to various religious groups. That and the freedom to believe in whatever god they wanted to. However it appears that the muslims were not invited.

Unlike in their home countrys, religions recieved no handouts from the govts/kings coffers so they were granted the freedom to collect what they could Tax free. This ultimitely resulted in the eveangelistic promotion of various religions and arguably the most polished, dishonest and corrupt marketing strategies devised.

and don't forget, they killed about 95% of the dark folk that were on that land first... YAY DEMOCRACY.

land of the thief and home of the slave...

[Brian d marge]

Stephen

[blue rider]

[Brian d marge]

National radio was good

Mc cormack ( sp) hit the nail on the head

but ,,,the guest who analysed the water and electricity ..

Water 17 % increase above the norm , electricity ...400% above what it should be ( have been )

Ohh that smarts , even with valoline .........


Stephen

[puddytat]

I wouldnt be surprised if the Maori party sells out....so its going to come down to Sharples & Turei & Dunn.

I cant believe that this is going to happen all over again....We dont fucking deserve this country if we let this happen.
Sign a petititon!!

http://www.greens.org.nz/press-relea...r-power-prices
http://www.greens.org.nz/press-relea...400m-give-away

[pete376403]

Nothing this "government" says its going to do surprises me any more. Eg Bill Dinglish - we're (govt) going to borrow $4 or more billion we can lend it to the IMF if they need to bail out countries in financial crap. Lending the $4b (or so) to the IMF will show countries who buy our stuff that we're good people, so we can continue borrowing the money ($300m/week IIRC) that the govt claims is needed to keep the country afloat.
Meanwhile, Peter Dunne says his campaign promise about not privatising water rights does not conflict with asset sales, because the hydro power operators dont have water rights, they have rights to use water. Anyway, the income the govt will loose by selling the assets (which we taxpayers currently own) will be recouped by increasing taxes on the people who previously owned said assets.

"Alice in Wonderland" was fiction, but these guys leave Lewis Carroll for dead

[ducatilover]

I don't get it
http://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock

I would like to find the magic money place and get some too please.

Next week: Ducatilover goes to Mozambique to explore a country more financially secure than the U.S.A.

[Brian d marge]

debt as we know it , isn’t what these nuts think of

if I give you 10 dollars , u have a debt to me for an agreed amount , usually 10 plus a beer

these nuts say; I have ten dollars , but I will write an secure note to any shop u want to spend it at , they can cash it if they want ...oh and you can do this 9 times , and the same goes for the people you gave my money note to , they can do it 9 times ,,,,,,,, so from 10 dollars ...these nuts lent out 81 or more dollars , 81 beers at least

the solution is surprisingly simple;

don’t go into debt , grow trade and barter locally, and say no to any grand schemes.......and of course dont use .....

me , NZ government is not getting one red cent from me . I will give my tax to those who need it,,and do ! ( I heard a great story about a beneficiary who makes ends meet , grows veges etc and is able to give to the sally army his surpluses ... well done that man ) but thats another story ..

now this dont use .....Dont use ( as much as u feel comfortable with )

Ive seen diesel generators on trade me 6k new ( Chinese probably) ,,,,and a quick trip to the chippy ( if you can get it ) ... even using that for say the summer to heat the water ...( just an idea but u get the point ) vegetable gardens , beer , fuel .....some bright spark might even figure out internet ! all u can use free internet !!

here , every pint of home-brew I make is one less dollar in the pocket of a company who has no regard for peoples health ..... ( healthy , cheap and better tasting ........screw u asahi )


up the rebels !!!!

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

I don't get it
http://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock

I would like to find the magic money place and get some too please.

Next week: Ducatilover goes to Mozambique to explore a country more financially secure than the U.S.A.

not my debt and I wont pay .( play)

Stephen

[Fast Eddie]

haha i like this quote i saw online.. probably quite true - one last push to get paiiiiiddd.

"This is an ineffective Government that knows this could be their last opportunity to line their pockets. "

p.s. I never voted for national ever..

wtf were the rest of you doing?

I smelled a rat ages a go just by looking at his face and listening to him talk. Rather a butch female run the joint than a camp shonkey wonkey