New Zealand army - no weapons no ammo.

**Timber020** · 27th September 2005, 23:21

Kalashnikov is reliable because its so loose. Dont get me wrong, I have alot of respect for them but they give like the frames on old bikes. They are so sloppy that they can have the contents of a whole sandpit in them before its starts to interfere with moving parts. Probably the most influential gun of last century, but forget ever hitting anything your aiming at!

**scumdog** · 27th September 2005, 23:52

Originally Posted by Timber020

Kalashnikov is reliable because its so loose. Dont get me wrong, I have alot of respect for them but they give like the frames on old bikes. They are so sloppy that they can have the contents of a whole sandpit in them before its starts to interfere with moving parts. Probably the most influential gun of last century, but forget ever hitting anything your aiming at!

Mehh, mine shoots o.k. given my 50+ year old eyes and a short sighting radius, an apareture (sp) sight set-up would make a big difference, btw my SKS is damn accurate. (different action though).

**Wolf** · 28th September 2005, 00:00

Originally Posted by scumdog

btw my SKS is damn accurate. (different action though).

Have never had the opportunity to fire my SKS - I have a genuine Russian one (rather than the Norinco copy) that I've made a few mods to. First thing to go was that fucking bayonet lug (so it wouldn't get snagged in the bush - and I've not had a chance to take it out into the bush) next mod was getting the mag cut down to 5-shots (when the MSSA laws came in).

I've got to organise a shoot with it at some stage.

**scumdog** · 28th September 2005, 00:03

A quick'n'dirty way to fix the bayonet lug problem is to just wrap it in black duct tape!

**Waylander** · 28th September 2005, 00:06

I want one of these.

**TwoSeven** · 28th September 2005, 00:08

Originally Posted by Timber020

The way things are going, The antarctic is going to be the last big oil spot on the earth to be controlled and exploited. I wonder whose going to get it?

See my post on sphere of control.

The US have a base on the pole already - and their own supply lines.

**scumdog** · 28th September 2005, 00:11

Originally Posted by Waylander

I want one of these.

Mehh, it's just another fancy 308, could you actually use the sucker? (look at it's weight, you would need somebody just to help you tote it around!!!!!!).

**Waylander** · 28th September 2005, 00:16

Originally Posted by scumdog

Mehh, it's just another fancy 308, could you actually use the sucker? (look at it's weight, you would need somebody just to help you tote it around!!!!!!).

Dime spread at 800 yards. (yea not really far but I was only getting started) Never had a problem with the wieght of the one a mate loaned me in the states.

**scumdog** · 28th September 2005, 00:36

Originally Posted by Waylander

Dime spread at 800 yards. (yea not really far but I was only getting started) Never had a problem with the wieght of the one a mate loaned me in the states.

Five shots onto a dollar note at 800 yards would be fuckin' exceptional, onto a dime? hmm, you're REALLY stretching my credibility here sunshine!

**Waylander** · 28th September 2005, 00:46

Are you kidding me? That's not even a Kilometer. Most guys I've seen can do dimes at 1700 yards.

**scumdog** · 28th September 2005, 00:51

Originally Posted by Waylander

Are you kidding me? That's not even a Kilometer. Most guys I've seen can do dimes at 1700 yards.

Uh-uh, a dime (we're talking about less than an inch here) at 1,700 yards isn't even on the record books, not even at a 1,000 yards.

It takes a GOOD bench-rest rifle to do it at 500 yards on a perfect day.

I'm prepared to stand corrected if there's proof to the contrary.

BTW Any hunting type rifle that will shoot a dime size group consistantly at ONE hundred yards is pretty uncommon.

**Sniper** · 28th September 2005, 07:54

I have been lucky to have a go with a PSG1. Not my ideal rifle by a longshot (pun intended) basically its just designed to look good. Scumdog, I have managed to hit a 10c coin at 800yards on a good day. Ok that was with my 82 so it may have been shock waves but it was fun.

And I wouldn't correct you when you say that it takes a good bench-rest rifle to do it at 500yards on a perfect day. I would say you are being over generous as I would have said 400yards.