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    BMW S100RR trackbikes available

    Yep you read right, I have a lead on some track prepped 2010 BMW S100RR bikes that could be had by those interested.


    Back story:
    My brother lives in the States has worked with the California Superbike School when they visit VIR a couple times a year. They use a fleet of ~30 BMW S1000RR bikes that they purchased brand spanking new from the factory in 2010. They are looking to renew their fleet and therefore need to part with the existing Beemers. The task of selling off the bikes lands to more or less one guy, who also happens to do all the maintenance on the bikes. However, being that he is not a dealer, and he has a full time job trying to keep the bikes serviced and all, doesn't really have time to try and flog off 30 some bikes. So he is definately willing to do a better deal for someone who will buy multiple bikes.


    The Bikes:
    2010 model BMW S1000RR that were bought direct from the factory and immediately converted for use by Cali SBK School. The are more or less stock with the exception of race body work (I can't remember the make of body work, will find out), removal of lights, R & G frame sliders, Akrapovik slip-on with some bikes having aftermarket rearsets (handful of instructor bikes). From what I understand the road gear is also available if there is interest, but getting the bike registered and WOF'd here in NZ would be your responsibility. They would be imported as a off-road only bike.

    Most of you are probably familar with the wide range of students that come to the Cali SBK School, so you can fairly bet that the bikes have seen it all. From people who rarely get it over 6k rpm to those who are bouncing it off the rev limiter. When I rode in a couple of sessions with the students (on my bro's 748 and my first time at that track) I was flying past some students, and in return getting buzzed by other students and instructors. From what I saw though, I would say that the bikes are babied around the track much more often then being thrashed around. All of the bikes have around 20,000 MILES on them (30,000km) and have been repaired using geniune BMW parts for any damage that was done to them. There may be some parts that have minor cosmetic damage that haven't been replaced, but any part that was deemed to be damaged would be pulled off and replaced by a brand new part. The Disclaimer here would be that these bikes most likely have been crashed, run hard, and put away wet on occasion. But having said that, they have also been regularly serviced by a trained mechanic, so draw your own conclusions on their condition.


    The Idea:
    Assess the level of interest from riders here in NZ to see if it would be worthwhile to make a volume buy and import a number of bikes at a cheaper price then you could ever hope to find a road going BMW and convert it to a trackday/race bike. I'm sure everyone understands the benifit of volume buying and shipping the bikes over here and the price advantages that would offer.


    I don't really know what the demand is for a track/race BMW over here, so I'm just testing the waters to see if there is enough interest to start putting some serious numbers together.






    Of note, would be a great bike when GW convinces everyone to go from Superbike to Superstock spec for the premier class.
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    ok, whats the expected cost?

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    Oh yeah, price. I guess that's an important part. Ok, a rough calc that i did for ONE bike came to $15k. Now that probably sounds high, but that is a very conservative estimate, because i don't want to give someone a price only to find out that I've lowballed it. More bikes bought mean a better buy price and cheaper shipping price per bike. If i start to seriously negotiate on the bikes and get quotes on shipping I'm confident that price will come down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie View Post
    Oh yeah, price. I guess that's an important part. Ok, a rough calc that i did for ONE bike came to $15k. Now that probably sounds high, but that is a very conservative estimate, because i don't want to give someone a price only to find out that I've lowballed it. More bikes bought mean a better buy price and cheaper shipping price per bike. If i start to seriously negotiate on the bikes and get quotes on shipping I'm confident that price will come down.
    hmmm. im interested.

    woth regards to shipping, are you just ringing a company and sorting it that way, or getting someone to help out with a good rate, as that could cut the cost again somewhat.

    If you could work out a cost per scale, e.g.
    1 bike =15k each
    3 bikes 13k each
    5 bikes 10k each
    etc etc you would probably get more interest.

    Ill say it now, Im interested if you can make something work. I think youd get 12 in a 20 ft container easily fwiw.

    so as i said, get a better idea on prices, and I might be keen.

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    What Colours are available ?
    Ive run out of fucks to give

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quasievil View Post
    What Colours are available ?
    You can have any color you want, so long as its grey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    hmmm. im interested.

    woth regards to shipping, are you just ringing a company and sorting it that way, or getting someone to help out with a good rate, as that could cut the cost again somewhat.

    If you could work out a cost per scale, e.g.
    1 bike =15k each
    3 bikes 13k each
    5 bikes 10k each
    etc etc you would probably get more interest.

    Ill say it now, Im interested if you can make something work. I think youd get 12 in a 20 ft container easily fwiw.

    so as i said, get a better idea on prices, and I might be keen.
    Yep, to get enough interest to fill a 20' container and the shipping cost per bike will drop significantly. My $15k estimate took into account $1500USD in shipping, and that could come down a lot if i could ship a container full.

    I wanted to see if there was interest in at least 5 bikes before i start running around and getting quotes, pricing bikes, ect.
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    Awesome.....
    I do see a flaw in the plan... Do the importers want the market flooded with S1000R's?
    I guess if there is more, then the requirement for spares will be higher, so may be they don't care so much?

    Anyhow, as for them being used gently.... Well, I agree.
    From Lesson 1 at CSS you are taught how to use the throttle responsibly, and aren't allowed to use the brakes.
    From there you are built up overt he course of the day to a level that has a lot of mechanical empathy......
    I would much rather an ex CSS bike than any second hand bike of the same milage! And they are low.... along with being well maintained.

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    Any idea on when CSS are likely to begin selling them off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickbuck View Post
    Awesome.....
    I do see a flaw in the plan... Do the importers want the market flooded with S1000R's?
    I guess if there is more, then the requirement for spares will be higher, so may be they don't care so much?
    That is one thing that I have thought about, but didn't really know how to inquire about that. I don't really want to piss off the BMW dealers here in NZ by bringing in a bunch of bikes at prices they can't hope to match. But then again, the bikes are going to be track/race bikes instead of road bikes, so hopefully it won't bother them too much.

    Anyhow, as for them being used gently.... Well, I agree.
    From Lesson 1 at CSS you are taught how to use the throttle responsibly, and aren't allowed to use the brakes.
    From there you are built up overt he course of the day to a level that has a lot of mechanical empathy......
    I would much rather an ex CSS bike than any second hand bike of the same milage! And they are low.... along with being well maintained.
    Agreed. But I also wanted to make it known that some of them could have been wrung out a bit by people who know how to ride. I don't want to misrepresent them in any way to anyone who might be interested in buying one.

    Quote Originally Posted by DidJit View Post
    Any idea on when CSS are likely to begin selling them off?
    They are looking to finish the season with them, and then have a new fleet for next year. So I would be expecting them to be used into the October/November timeframe. I wouldn't really be expecting to get them much before the new year. I can check into that and get a more definate timeframe, along with a few other questions I have about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie View Post
    That is one thing that I have thought about, but didn't really know how to inquire about that. I don't really want to piss off the BMW dealers here in NZ by bringing in a bunch of bikes at prices they can't hope to match. But then again, the bikes are going to be track/race bikes instead of road bikes, so hopefully it won't bother them too much.


    yea, I wouldn't worry bout the bmw dealers haha - your just buying a bunch of used bikes, importing them and selling them. One wouldn't be worrying about toyota dealers if importing a bunch of used corollas from japan and selling em as on trademe or something (guess you prob have to be a registered dealer after x amount of vehicles sold)

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    The Guy who Your talking about is named Will Eikenberry, he's been CSS's mech since they purchased the BMWs. See link http://www.superbikeschool.com/team/

    I rode these BMWs only a few months ago.....the pic is me at Miller raceway. The Grey Bikes are the student rental Bikes, the coach ones are the Red White and blue. All of these bikes are DI'd every day - i.e checked over, they are all warmed up each morning prior to being ridden, the level of maintance is very high, particular with replacing parts, in 8 days on track we had one bike with a quick shifter failure, Will replaced it with a new one, reset all the ECU stuff and away we went again, it was not an easy process to do that, but Will sorted it out damn quick.

    As track bikes these things would be perfect, to be honest the speed of the USA students I experienced was slower than the Aussie and NZ students, also the way CSS conducts its training days as Aaron Carr stated starts very slowly with NO braking allowed for the first two Sessions. So these bikes haven't been treated anywhere near as hard as a race/track day bike.

    There is also ONE coach bike that has the full race CHIP/ECU in it, giving you Rain, Sport, Race and SLICK MODE (slick mode not std)

    I can give out limited information on them but have a direct link to the man (both Will and his boss, Mr code himself) if you have any curly q's....
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    Quote Originally Posted by neil_cb125t View Post
    The Guy who Your talking about is named Will Eikenberry, he's been CSS's mech since they purchased the BMWs. See link http://www.superbikeschool.com/team/

    I rode these BMWs only a few months ago.....the pic is me at Miller raceway. The Grey Bikes are the student rental Bikes, the coach ones are the Red White and blue. All of these bikes are DI'd every day - i.e checked over, they are all warmed up each morning prior to being ridden, the level of maintance is very high, particular with replacing parts, in 8 days on track we had one bike with a quick shifter failure, Will replaced it with a new one, reset all the ECU stuff and away we went again, it was not an easy process to do that, but Will sorted it out damn quick.

    As track bikes these things would be perfect, to be honest the speed of the USA students I experienced was slower than the Aussie and NZ students, also the way CSS conducts its training days as Aaron Carr stated starts very slowly with NO braking allowed for the first two Sessions. So these bikes haven't been treated anywhere near as hard as a race/track day bike.

    There is also ONE coach bike that has the full race CHIP/ECU in it, giving you Rain, Sport, Race and SLICK MODE (slick mode not std)
    Yep, thats him. I spent a two days working in the pit area with him and was kept throughly entertained by no end of rediculous stories about some of the stuff he has done. Learned a hell of a lot from him in those two day too. But yeah, he's a cool guy.

    I can give out limited information on them but have a direct link to the man (both Will and his boss, Mr code himself) if you have any curly q's....
    Damn! And here I thought that I was the only one with the insider info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie View Post
    That is one thing that I have thought about, but didn't really know how to inquire about that. I don't really want to piss off the BMW dealers here in NZ by bringing in a bunch of bikes at prices they can't hope to match. But then again, the bikes are going to be track/race bikes instead of road bikes, so hopefully it won't bother them too much.



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    BMW can get fucked, what you are proposing is a bunch of mates getting together to split shipping on some second hand toys from overseas.

    really the result is that eventually they might sell some spares to people for bikes that wouldnt have existed here had you not gone thorugh with getting them.

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    Interest here............
    Speed kills-just ask the rabbit......

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